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Are chromebooks affiliated with Gentoo?
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No
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:35 pm    Post subject: How is gentoo related to chromebooks? Reply with quote

An old wives tales I have been hearing is that Chromebooks are based off of Gentoo.
Whenever I go to Best Buy, I have a hard time believing that one of the least privacy-oriented companies are
selling tons of Gentoo running machines next to the proprietary oligopoly of Microsoft and Apple.
The threat from Google becomes even stronger when users of /g/ tout that Fuchasia OS is coming and
Google will develop a "neo-Linux".
Most Chromebooks do not make their users go into a terminal and enter "emerge xyz". But, according to
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ChromeOS the Chromebooks use Portage. Of course, the reality is that
whenever someone needs to install something, they ultimately use the proprietary Google Play store.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what's your point exactly?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And what's your point exactly?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are chromebooks affiliated with Gentoo?
No.
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How is gentoo related to chromebooks?
They aren't.

Any user of Gentoo uses the tools provided to create their own OS.

Other than being a user of those tools, there is generally no affiliation or relation between a user and Gentoo. I am a user of Gentoo, but also an Admin on these forums. So that would probably constitute some "affiliation" or "relation". Something similar would apply to other roles such as developer, infrastructure, foundation, etc.

Google did or does use Gentoo to create ChromeOS. They are a user of Gentoo. I am not aware of, but it is possible that an employee of Google could also have a role with Gentoo (forums, developer, etc.). That would not indicate any official relationship or affiliation with Google the corporate entity.

The wiki you reference has links to chromium.org.
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We have many packages in the Chromium OS tree. While many come from upstream Gentoo (which can be browsed http://packages.gentoo.org/), there are a good number which are specific to our project. Here you can dive down into them.
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We use Gentoo's portage (aka emerge) as the package manager in Chromium OS. This page is more geared towards developers of the portage tool itself rather than developers just using it (i.e. for ebuilds, or configuration, etc...).

You can find Chromium OS's mini-fork here: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/portage_tool

Changes constantly flow back into upstream Gentoo's tree, but we backport fixes sometimes.
I've never seen, used, or specifically read about Chromebooks, so I have no idea how their update process works. I would presume that they provide compiled binaries to their users.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same with intel dptf https://github.com/intel/dptf
the Readme.txt has the following text
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Step 1 - Locate the board overlay make.conf file in Chromium OS SDK. You will
need to know the board project name of your system. For example, for the "Cyan"
board, this file is at src/overlays/overlay-cyan/make.conf.

Step 2 - Add the following line to make.conf:

USE="${USE} dptf"

Not sure if gentoo portage and google portage are still the same. But Chromium OS still build with portage
i wish google shared the ebuild off this package . thermald wont work with my laptop, but dptf works fine ( lenovo legion 15IMH05)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is this a poll when the answer is a fact, not an opinion? :)

mega_flow wrote:

Not sure if gentoo portage and google portage are still the same. But Chromium OS still build with portage
i wish google shared the ebuild off this package . thermald wont work with my laptop, but dptf works fine ( lenovo legion 15IMH05)


At least part of it is public,
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/overlays/chromiumos-overlay/+/refs/heads/main/
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/overlays/chromiumos-overlay/+/refs/heads/main/chromeos/config/env/sys-power/
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/overlays/chromiumos-overlay/+/refs/heads/main/sys-power/
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/overlays/chromiumos-overlay/+/refs/heads/main/virtual/dptf/
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atlanticat,

The answer is "No".

A long time ago Google used the portage package manager to develop Chromeos.
Portage and the ::gentoo repo are both GPL, so they are allowed to do that.

There has never been any formal association between Gentoo and Google.
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