worth switching to wayland?

Anon-E-moose · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:07 am Post subject:

Lightdm needs X11 even to start a wayland session.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Display_managers

If you want straight wayland, no X11, then use sddm or start from cmd line.
I have a script that basically sets all env vars that I need then starts the compositor.
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kj184050 · Apprentice Joined: 29 Sep 2021 Posts: 164 Location: Devon

Guys…
I am speechless.
I installed sddm and now Wayland works again.
I plan to test Hyperland, solve all my issues, and finally make it my only desktop.
Thanks for suggestions.

BTW, does Wayland need an X USE flag?

Anon-E-moose · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:50 am Post subject:

kj184050 · Apprentice Joined: 29 Sep 2021 Posts: 164 Location: Devon

I need only GTK. I am trying to get rid of qt whenever possible.
I plan to install Gentoo from scratch using only the newest and greatest technologies like

no bootloader (booting from EFI - I hate grub sice the beginning, I liked Lilo, but it can't use EFI)
btrfs instead of ext4
minimal system with -* USE in make.conf
Wayland plus Hyprland only without display manager
Manual, minimal kernel config without iniramfs (I have never had time for this). It is sad to admit the last custom kernel I compiled manually was like 15-20 years ago )
and other only good stuff.

Thanks to this thread, I started experimenting again

thanks guys.

I have found this:

pietinger · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:49 pm Post subject:

Naib · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:25 pm Post subject:

*IF* you are using applications that utilize cursor warping you are going to have issues with Wayland...

Wayland has not exposed API for this and XWayland does not reproduce the behavior (and also has issues with docks)...

Neither Wayland nor XWayland are complete FACT but it is in a really good spot for day to day usage. I use Wayland daily (thanks to Anon-E moose a few years ago) but I am also using a program via XWayland that does not behave correctly as cursor warping is critical
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Naib · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:46 pm Post subject:

Zucca · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:41 am Post subject:

While X11 development has practically stopped, at least they still fix some bugs. But for how long?
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Zucca · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:01 am Post subject:

Are you currently running Gnome, KDE or Hyprland?

Can you run rythmbox in terminal or in some other way so that you could grab its terminal output (stdout as well stderr).
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Naib · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:29 am Post subject:

kj184050 · Apprentice Joined: 29 Sep 2021 Posts: 164 Location: Devon

I tried to install it:

Naib · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:45 am Post subject:

Do you need/use xsane? this is the package that is holding you back.

Option1 : wait
Option2 : -gimp and re-emerge xsane
Option3 : emerge -c xsane
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#define Int main()
#define Return printf
#define Print return
#include <stdio>
HelloWorld Int {
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kj184050 · Apprentice Joined: 29 Sep 2021 Posts: 164 Location: Devon

It died a moment ago:

Zucca · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:23 pm Post subject:

Anon-E-moose · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:04 pm Post subject:

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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:01 am Post subject:

gui-libs/xdg-desktop-portal-hyprland would have to come from one of the repos like guru

gui-libs/xdg-desktop-portal-wlr will work and is in gentoo's repo

either need an explicit emerge, but they will pull in xdg-desktop-portal on their own. Sorry I didn't explain better.

so "emerge -v xdg-desktop-portal-<whichever you choose>" will work and pull in xdg-desktop-portal.
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kj184050 · Apprentice Joined: 29 Sep 2021 Posts: 164 Location: Devon

No worries

but I have

Naib · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:39 am Post subject:

yes, but are they running?

some of the issues I was having with SWAY turned out to be the required portals (including a missing flatpak portal)
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:38 am Post subject:

Not everything works well without out the portal, I had trouble with sound (bluetooth) until I switched it on.