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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:29 pm    Post subject: Leaving the system off for 6 month Reply with quote

Hi, I'm going to live far away from my current place for 6 month, I can't take everything I own especially not my desktop computer running Gentoo. I was wondering if it will cause some problems once I get back and upgrade my system.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will see :)

Nobody knows. When emerge -avuND world gives out too much packages, update a few of them manualy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does it change if you "know" the answer to your question?

I guess, the main goal of this forum is to solve problems of users. And I further guess, the main goal will not change in the next months.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fbeth,

If you encounter problems then, start a new topic. I'm sure we're still here. :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fbeth,

Niels Bohr wrote:
Prediction is very difficult, especially if it’s about the future


Unfortunately, Gentoo is the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have time before you shut it off for the 6 months, document and practice updating the system using squashfs images of the ::gentoo repository.

You can then download image files from which you can update your system.

Use your preferred mirror, or find one here:
https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/mirrors/

Browse to the "snapshots/squashfs/" directory. On the couple of mirrors I've checked, they have one snapshot per month going back to some time in 2016, plus one for each day of the previous 30+ days.

You'll need kernel support and tools:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SquashFS

Note that these squasfs images will only help with the ::gentoo repository, not source files and patches. However, in my experience (only once), updating in monthly increments reduced the number of errors to a "manageable" level. I recall only having 1 or a few minor missing sources / patches or something like that. I believe that system was out of date more than 6 months, but not more than a year.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentoo/portage is much better at this than it used to be, 6 months 'isn't that long' anymore.
Every night my machines sync and try to pretend-update, if the pretend fails I get an email and update them myself so as not to "stack problems".
It's at the point now I have to update them myself every 2-4 months because, well updates, breakage used to be a good "time to update" yardstick, not so much now.

Also, if we are using git to sync now, should we not be able to walk back the repo to a date that works without errors to "piecemeal" problems?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should be fine anyway, but especially so if you upgrade and depclean before you go.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralphred wrote:
Gentoo/portage is much better at this than it used to be, 6 months 'isn't that long' anymore.
Every night my machines sync and try to pretend-update, if the pretend fails I get an email and update them myself so as not to "stack problems".
It's at the point now I have to update them myself every 2-4 months because, well updates, breakage used to be a good "time to update" yardstick, not so much now.

Also, if we are using git to sync now, should we not be able to walk back the repo to a date that works without errors to "piecemeal" problems?


Not so sure about that.... I just started the laptop that didn't have updates for a month or so and the dependencies are flying around like snowflakes in a blizzard. I know what I'll spend my weekend on.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's abnormal and implies cruft in /etc/portage or world file. Please start a new thread about it or pop onto IRC.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just did the update, had to resolve a few dep circles, but apart from that everything went alright !
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