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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:15 am    Post subject: Can ccache reduce llvm compiling? Reply with quote

When installing llvm, clang, compiler-rt, libclc and so, a lot of things are compiled several times. With
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hash_dir = false
in ccache.conf, can it reduce the times of compilation between these packages?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick test shows that is it possibly cannot.

Here's what ccache says after building llvm, clang, libclc.

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Cacheable calls:   5855 / 6446 (90.83%)
  Hits:             212 / 5855 ( 3.62%)
    Direct:          79 /  212 (37.26%)
    Preprocessed:   133 /  212 (62.74%)
  Misses:          5643 / 5855 (96.38%)
Uncacheable calls:  591 / 6446 ( 9.17%)
Local storage:
  Cache size (GB):  0.3 / 25.0 ( 1.22%)
  Hits:             212 / 5855 ( 3.62%)
  Misses:          5643 / 5855 (96.38%)


So how exactly does ccache works? What does it take into account for generating a hash?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to How ccache works (ccache manual):
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The detection is done by hashing different kinds of information that should be unique for the compilation and then using the hash sum to identify the cached output.
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The following information is always included in the hash:

    the extension used by the compiler for a file with preprocessor output (normally .i for C code and .ii for C++ code)

    the compiler’s size and modification time (or other compiler-specific information specified by compiler_check)

    the name of the compiler
...
In the preprocessor mode, the hash is formed of the common information and:

    the preprocessor output from running the compiler with -E
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I omitted the parts unlikely to be relevant to your question, but you can see them at the linked document.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ccache is proven to be useful only on rebuilds (ebuild testing, emerge -e world, manual reinstall, etc) but not on new installs.

Also, some USE changes alter internal constants so it renders the cache invalid again.

So unless you do a lot of same or nearly same scenario recompiles ccache is not helping.
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