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ian.au
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| Gentoopc wrote: | | everything from Photoshop to games is already tied to AI. if you are not able to realize this , then please do not try to make meaningless what is already simply necessary . being able to work on a Gentoo GPU is just a must for survival. she knows how to work on all sorts of rubbish like mips, sparc, alpha, ppc and other nonsense that 2 people out of 1000 use. but you don't want to make stage_GPU. you're insane. |
afaik mips, sparc, aplpha and ppc can be compiled by passing options to gcc - the 2/1000 Gentoo users you reference are likely for the most part the maintainers as well as the users of these arch's.
I got so sick of NVIDIA obsoleting my hardware a decade ago (to the point that I now avoid their hardware and have done so for years); As a result I got quite interested in the nouveau project for a while - this was back when I used to keep old hardware around to experiment on and the time to do so.
Now, that's a reasonably well-resourced project - but they still, (I assume, as this was 10+ years ago) couldn't make any inroads into cuda support because of the positively Microsoftian implementation of nvcc - ie. closed source and creates an obfuscated abstraction layer between code and hw. I think there were also deliberate efforts by NVIDEA to ensure that C/C++ code can't easily be run with cuda headers due to library incompatibilites. Then, even if you rebuilt all the cuda libraries with gcc (which hardly seems to fit your argument for less / faster compilation) then used cuda headers, problems would still arise because it's all but impossible to debug the code that gets split off to nvcc.
So the only real option is to use nvcc as the compiler, and afaik, that's not supported in Gentoo. You have a lot of work to do to get this going, and you'll probably be doing it alone given your interpersonal skill set.
It's really not nice to call people insane, particularly when your posts under reply have a bit of a trolling flavour in the first place. Whether you like it or not, this stage isn't going to happen for all the reasons people have patiently pointed out to you above. Sorry it doesn't suit you - but you could try to avoid throwing the toys out of the cot over it.
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Gentoopc
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[quote="ian.au"] | Gentoopc wrote: |
It's really not nice to call people insane, particularly when your posts under reply have a bit of a trolling flavour in the first place. Whether you like it or not, this stage isn't going to happen for all the reasons people have patiently pointed out to you above. Sorry it doesn't suit you - but you could try to avoid throwing the toys out of the cot over it.
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it's not an insult, it's a fact. I've already explained why. it doesn't matter who already owns Gentoo, google or microsoft, the most important thing is that once both the linux kernel and distributions based on it turned somewhere wrong or someone led them into this dead-end path. in order not to be buried in the future, it is necessary to lay the foundation for the integration of AI. and only a fool does not understand this. think for yourself that apple and other companies are trying to seize any opportunity to get divorced in the future, so that they can find a place in the future, they patent all sorts of stupidity just to have at least a small chance to be under the sun in the future. they spend a lot of money on it. you are presented with ideas on a platter, just for free so that this distribution can live. smart people would not reject this opportunity, it is not fantastic, it is very real, GPUs were there and will be for a very long time for everyone. and if there were at least one sane person here, he would immediately understand all the prospects, he would understand that x86 is exhausted. RISC-V dummy. what about all the other architectures that you support, people have never even heard of, they don't need them, but you support them, you waste your energy, but the GPU will be for a very long time, the gaming industry is eternal and everything connected with it is eternal as well. but you reject this idea right away. it's better that you support and develop some kind of KDL95W7 architecture that no one will ever even need, and that no one will ever hear about. you are the owners of the distribution, did not understand and do not understand. you haven't seen all the possibilities and ways, and I'm surprised at that. but wishing Gentoo well, I have not raised this topic three times in the hope that it will reach you. not enough. there's nothing more to talk about. drag out your existence further in the role of an exotic distribution that no one needs. I just selflessly tried to help you and the linux kernel with advice from the position of an ordinary user. I will not force you to live. we don't want to talk here anymore. |
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This topic is drifting further and further from the technical discussion it needs to be.
It no longer serves any useful purpose.
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