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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:54 pm    Post subject: Preferred way of installing KDE Plasma 6? Reply with quote

Just wanted to test out KDE Plasma 6 but it doesn't seem to be in the Gentoo repos (an RC1 release is there but I think this is a bit outdated?). Will the kde testing overlay provide what I need?

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/kde.git/
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rc1 was released a week ago and there hasn't been a new rc nor an actual release that I can see since, not what I'd call outdated. Was added to ::gentoo almost at same time albeit it remains masked for testing being a pre-release (the mask message shown if attempt to emerge these will in fact give some usage instructions and other warnings).

The overlay does offer live (9999) ebuilds if it's what you're looking for though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ionen wrote:
rc1 was released a week ago and there hasn't been a new rc nor an actual release that I can see since, not what I'd call outdated. Was added to ::gentoo almost at same time albeit it remains masked for testing being a pre-release (the mask message shown if attempt to emerge these will in fact give some usage instructions and other warnings).

The overlay does offer live (9999) ebuilds if it's what you're looking for though.


Oh my mistake. I thought I read that the RC1 on Gentoo was Alpha, which sounded quite old as Plasma 6 is on "Beta 2" now. I really just need something that was merged in early December (DMA-Fence deadlines) so the RC1 definitely sounds good enough. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An RC is an RC, not anything else.

https://kde.org/announcements/megarelease/6/rc1/
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like it's fully covered in this document.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunox

i am on plasma6. one system have live(9999) and one system with RC1 from ::gentoo . to set it up read portage output . you need to do the same with kde-overlay (9999) as with RC1::gentoo
with the unmask. i would say plasma6 works quite well to be a RC.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that. I managed to get RC1 installed. I've been having some framerate issues with it but my nvidia drivers are likely to blame. Will see what RC2 brings :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunox wrote:
Thanks for that. I managed to get RC1 installed. I've been having some framerate issues with it but my nvidia drivers are likely to blame. Will see what RC2 brings :)


sunox

dont get your hopes to high . i have had quite some hiccups plasma and wayland with nvidia-drivers before and 9999 is : 6.1 dev. if it matters i dont know;

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have https://i.imgur.com/4XYT5m0.png on desktop. What does it mean ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have https://i.imgur.com/4XYT5m0.png on desktop. What does it mean ?


It mean that you are running gentoos live (9999) ebuilds from kde-overlay . 6.1 dev is the bleeding edge now.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd guess the "preferred" way is to wait for it to appear in stable :-)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plasma 6 is out, waiting for Gentoo Team to provide it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is in ~amd64

https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/kde-plasma/plasma-meta
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is masked.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NichtDerHans wrote:
It is in ~amd64

https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/kde-plasma/plasma-meta


It's Hard Masked, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bandreabis wrote:

It's Hard Masked, isn't it?


So... no way to test it while it's hard masked?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zolfo wrote:
bandreabis wrote:

It's Hard Masked, isn't it?


So... no way to test it while it's hard masked?


Yes of course, but I don't go beyond the soft masked.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently on live version, hope to return to stable on next release.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect Gentleman wrote:
Currently on live version, hope to return to stable on next release.


You know, I wish it would be possible to have it slotted and to switch between kde versions with eselect,
right now I have manually unmasked everything it asked me but it's not the best way do it like this.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're on ~arch, you can follow the instructions in the package.mask in ::gentoo. You can also use the unmask + keywords files in ::kde.

I do not recommend trying Plasma 6 right now if the sound of that makes you uncomfortable, or you're on ~arch. It will be unleashed when it's ready.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam_ wrote:
If you're on ~arch, you can follow the instructions in the package.mask in ::gentoo. You can also use the unmask + keywords files in ::kde.

I do not recommend trying Plasma 6 right now if the sound of that makes you uncomfortable, or you're on ~arch. It will be unleashed when it's ready.

I don't mind tinker with my system, I've unmasked all (I think) the necessary packages but some packages it needs are missing?
eg. "kde-plasma/libkworkspace" doesn't have a ":6" slot so it's impossibile for me to upgrade, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

unmerge libkworkspace
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect Gentleman wrote:
unmerge libkworkspace


Please don't recommend people unmerge anything.

zolfo, please share the full emerge command (ideally a world upgrade) and output.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam_ wrote:
Perfect Gentleman wrote:
unmerge libkworkspace


Please don't recommend people unmerge anything.

zolfo, please share the full emerge command (ideally a world upgrade) and output.

here there's full world upgrade https://pastebin.com/hdkwVT0B
because of libkworkspace I have these blocks:
Code:

[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/plasma-integration:5 ("kde-plasma/plasma-integration:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/plasma-integration-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/libksysguard:5 ("kde-plasma/libksysguard:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/libksysguard-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/breeze:5 ("kde-plasma/breeze:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/breeze-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/kactivitymanagerd:5 ("kde-plasma/kactivitymanagerd:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/kactivitymanagerd-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/kwin:5 ("kde-plasma/kwin:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/kwin-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/kpipewire:5 ("kde-plasma/kpipewire:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/kpipewire-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/libkscreen:5 ("kde-plasma/libkscreen:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/libkscreen-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/milou:5 ("kde-plasma/milou:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/milou-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/kscreenlocker:5 ("kde-plasma/kscreenlocker:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/kscreenlocker-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/plasma-workspace:5 ("kde-plasma/plasma-workspace:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/libkworkspace:5 ("kde-plasma/libkworkspace:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] <kde-apps/kio-extras-23.08.5-r100:5 ("<kde-apps/kio-extras-23.08.5-r100:5" is soft blocking kde-apps/kio-extras-24.02.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/layer-shell-qt:5 ("kde-plasma/layer-shell-qt:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/layer-shell-qt-6.0.0)
[blocks B      ] kde-plasma/kdecoration:5 ("kde-plasma/kdecoration:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/kdecoration-6.0.0)


I'm not on ~arch and I'd like to stick to stable where possible, thanks.
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