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lars_the_bear Guru
Joined: 05 Jun 2024 Posts: 522
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:36 am Post subject: Build-time and runtime dependencies |
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Hi folks
When I look at the dependency tree for, say, 'vim', I see dependencies on git, python, perl, ruby, and autoconf. So far as I know, vim does not require any of these things at runtime. I'm guessing that some of these are build-time dependencies, needed to build that package from source.
Would these things still get installed if I installed the binary release, rather than building from source?
I note that, right now, 'git' is not on my system, despite being a dependency of 'vim', which is. Is this because it got removed in a clean-up operation? If there is a difference between build-time and runtime dependences, does that difference affect cleanup?
If 'git' was installed when I installed 'vim', can I prevent it being cleaned up, if I actually want to use it?
Sorry if this is inarticulate -- I'm just trying to understand how things work.
BR, Lars |
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xgivolari Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 26 Jul 2021 Posts: 102
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Ebuilds can declare different kinds of dependencies:
DEPEND: these need to be found at build time (e.g. libraries)
BDEPEND: programs that need to be executed at build time (e.g. pkgconf)
RDEPEND: required at runtime
PDEPEND: required at runtime, may be merged after the the package requiring it.
For binary packages, only RDEPEND and PDEPEND are satisfied. If you want to merge build time dependencies for a binary package as well, you can do so with the emerge argument "--with-bdeps=y"
For more information, check out the Dependencies article of the Gentoo development guide.
To find out what kind of dependency an ebuild declares, you can use "qdepends -v" (part of app-portage/portage-utils). E.g. for vim:
Code: | app-editors/vim-9.1.0366:
DEPEND="
>=app-eselect/eselect-vi-1.1
>=sys-libs/ncurses-5.2-r2:0/6=
virtual/libintl
sys-apps/acl
dev-libs/libsodium:0/26=
>=sys-libs/gpm-1.19.3
~app-editors/vim-core-9.1.0366
media-libs/libcanberra
x11-libs/libXt
x11-base/xorg-proto
"
RDEPEND="
>=app-eselect/eselect-vi-1.1
>=sys-libs/ncurses-5.2-r2:0/6=
virtual/libintl
sys-apps/acl
dev-libs/libsodium:0/26=
>=sys-libs/gpm-1.19.3
~app-editors/vim-core-9.1.0366
media-libs/libcanberra
x11-libs/libXt
>=sys-libs/glibc-2.39-r5
"
PDEPEND="
app-vim/gentoo-syntax
"
BDEPEND="
dev-build/autoconf
sys-devel/gettext
"
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xgivolari Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:07 am Post subject: |
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If you query dependencies with equery g, it lists all possible dependencies. However, vim for example only depends on ruby if you enable its ruby USE-flag. Because this flag is not enabled by default, a binary package of vim will not pull in ruby. AFAICT, the only case where vim depends on git is if you build it from a live ebuild (i.e. vim-9999). In that case it is a dependency of git-r3.eclass, which is the eclass that handles building packages from git branches or commits. |
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lars_the_bear Guru
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Thanks.
This is much more complicated than I expected it to be, and I expected it to be complicated
BR, Lars |
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Hu Administrator
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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How exactly are you looking at the dependency tree? As described above, there are many subtleties, and different tools may provide different levels of explanation. |
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lars_the_bear Guru
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hu wrote: | How exactly are you looking at the dependency tree? As described above, there are many subtleties, and different tools may provide different levels of explanation. |
I've just been doing `equery g` but, from previous comments, it looks as if `qdepends -v` gives more detailed information. I was prepared for their to b different build-time and runtime dependencies; I was surprised, however, to see how many different kinds there are.
BR, Lars. |
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