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toofastforyahuh
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:32 am    Post subject: PolicyKit1 Cannot determine session the caller is in Reply with quote

I've been a happy LXDE user for years, and my previous emerge world was successful last month (including profile 23.0 with split-usr).
Suddenly today after emerge-ing world (using --getbinpkg) LXDE notifies me on login:

Code:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: Cannot determine session the caller is in


Furthermore, trying to reboot/power down from the graphical start menu errors with
Code:
InteractiveAuthorizationRequired: Interactive Authentication Required


What might have changed to cause this?
Previously I had problems where using the elogind binary package caused problems with the power/reboot, and re-emerging it from source fixed it.
But now I have manually re-emerged from source elogind, policykit, dbus, lxsession, lxde-common to no avail. I have not changed my rc-update settings, but they are below for reference.

I have searched around various sites to no avail. I don't really know what policykit is really for, and I have no rules for it.
policykit and dbus are in my USE flags.

Code:
$ groups
disk wheel floppy audio cdrom video games usb users <and my username>


Code:
# rc-update show
            alsasound | boot                                   
               binfmt | boot                                   
             bootmisc | boot                                   
              cgroups |                                 sysinit
                 dbus | boot                                   
                devfs |                                 sysinit
                dmesg |                                 sysinit
              elogind | boot                                   
                 fsck | boot                                   
             hostname | boot                                   
              hwclock | boot                                   
              keymaps | boot                                   
            killprocs |                        shutdown       
           lm_sensors |      default                           
                local |      default nonetwork                 
           localmount | boot                                   
             loopback | boot                                   
              modules | boot                                   
             mount-ro |                        shutdown       
                 mtab | boot                                   
           net.enp4s0 | boot                                   
             net.eth0 |      default                           
               net.lo | boot                                   
             netmount |      default                           
               procfs | boot                                   
                 root | boot                                   
               rsyncd |      default                           
         save-keymaps | boot                                   
    save-termencoding | boot                                   
            savecache |                        shutdown       
              seedrng | boot                                   
                 sshd |      default                           
                 swap | boot                                   
               sysctl | boot                                   
                sysfs |                                 sysinit
            syslog-ng |      default                           
 systemd-tmpfiles-setup | boot                                   
 systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev |                                 sysinit
         termencoding | boot                                   
                 udev |                                 sysinit
         udev-trigger |                                 sysinit
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: PolicyKit1 Cannot determine session the caller is in Reply with quote

toofastforyahuh wrote:
Code:
$ groups
disk wheel floppy audio cdrom video games usb users <and my username>
Although not relevant to your immediate problem, I think membership in group disk is a bad idea. It allows any of your processes to directly read or write attached block devices, bypassing normal filesystem permissions.

For your current problem, does elogind know what session you are in? If elogind does not know, I expect other things would be confused too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would I go about determining this?
I've referred to this:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Elogind
I must confess that the whole interplay between dbus/policykit/elogind/pam is and always has been mysterious, as was consolekit before it.
I do have "elogind", "pam", "dbus" USE flags.
I also have "-systemd" and "-consolekit" so those should not be in the way.

My .xinitrc is:
Code:

dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session startlxde


I haven't played around with hidepid.
fstab has:
Code:
none                    /proc           proc            defaults                0 0


loginctl seems to report me OK. Is root supposed to have a session?
Code:
# loginctl
SESSION  UID USER     SEAT  TTY
      2 1000 <username> seat0 tty1

1 sessions listed.


The XDG env vars are:
Code:
# env | grep XDG
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg
XDG_MENU_PREFIX=lxde-
XDG_DATA_HOME=/home/<username>/.local/share
XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/home/<username>/.config
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=tty
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=LXDE
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_VTNR=1
XDG_SESSION_ID=2
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/gdm:/var/lib/menu-xdg:/usr/local/share:/usr/share



Code:
# grep -r elogind /etc/pam.d/
/etc/pam.d/elogind-user:session optional pam_elogind.so
/etc/pam.d/system-login:-session   optional   pam_elogind.so



This emerge -puDN world required workarounds for 2 unrelated things:
1. A symlink between /bin/mkdir and /usr/bin/mkdir for dev-ruby/racc
2. Removing ieee1394 from alsa-utils to work around the libffado python-3.12 problem.
Code:
>=media-sound/alsa-utils-1.2.11 -ieee1394

but neither of these should impact this I think.[/code]


Lastly, emerge --info:
Code:
# emerge --info
Portage 3.0.63 (python 3.12.3-final-0, default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/desktop, gcc-13, glibc-2.39-r6, 5.8.13 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-5.8.13-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-_i7-4790K_CPU_@_4.00GHz-with-glibc2.39
KiB Mem:    32845332 total,  30689284 free
KiB Swap:    2097148 total,   2097148 free
Timestamp of repository gentoo: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 20:00:00 +0000
Head commit of repository gentoo: ac72335cac7b42c0baf5aeaba411e80ad7b2dbc6
Timestamp of repository mv: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 05:50:57 +0000
Head commit of repository mv: 570842ed0b96389cca823788844ebb5861d39570

Timestamp of repository torbrowser: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 20:49:07 +0000
Head commit of repository torbrowser: ac0274cfdbe6fea24fb3291f09ebc2ea82ed05d7

sh bash 5.1_p16-r6
ld GNU ld (Gentoo 2.42 p3) 2.42.0
app-misc/pax-utils:        1.3.7::gentoo
app-shells/bash:           5.1_p16-r6::gentoo
dev-build/autoconf:        2.13-r8::gentoo, 2.71-r7::gentoo
dev-build/automake:        1.16.5-r2::gentoo
dev-build/cmake:           3.28.5::gentoo
dev-build/libtool:         2.4.7-r4::gentoo
dev-build/make:            4.4.1-r1::gentoo
dev-build/meson:           1.4.0-r1::gentoo
dev-java/java-config:      2.3.3-r1::gentoo
dev-lang/perl:             5.38.2-r3::gentoo
dev-lang/python:           3.11.9-r1::gentoo, 3.12.3-r1::gentoo
dev-lang/rust:             1.77.1::gentoo
sys-apps/baselayout:       2.15::gentoo
sys-apps/openrc:           0.54::gentoo
sys-apps/sandbox:          2.38::gentoo
sys-devel/binutils:        2.42-r1::gentoo
sys-devel/binutils-config: 5.5::gentoo
sys-devel/clang:           17.0.6::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc:             13.2.1_p20240210::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc-config:      2.11::gentoo
sys-devel/lld:             17.0.6::gentoo
sys-devel/llvm:            17.0.6::gentoo
sys-kernel/linux-headers:  6.6-r1::gentoo (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:            2.39-r6::gentoo
Repositories:

gentoo
    location: /usr/portage
    sync-type: rsync
    sync-uri: rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
    priority: -1000
    volatile: True
    sync-rsync-extra-opts:
    sync-rsync-verify-jobs: 1
    sync-rsync-verify-max-age: 3
    sync-rsync-verify-metamanifest: yes

mv
    location: /var/db/repos/mv
    sync-type: git
    sync-uri: https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/mv.git
    masters: gentoo
    volatile: False

sawfish
    location: /var/db/repos/sawfish-overlay-master
    masters: gentoo
    volatile: False

torbrowser
    location: /var/db/repos/torbrowser
    sync-type: git
    sync-uri: https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/torbrowser.git
    masters: gentoo
    volatile: False

x-portage
    location: /usr/local/portage
    masters: gentoo
    priority: 0
    volatile: True

Binary Repositories:

binhost
    priority: 9999
    sync-uri: https://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/binpackages/23.0/x86-64

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="*"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe -fno-stack-protector"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/sofficerc /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/dconf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo"
CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe -fno-stack-protector"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
ENV_UNSET="CARGO_HOME DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DISPLAY GDK_PIXBUF_MODULE_FILE GOBIN GOPATH PERL5LIB PERL5OPT PERLPREFIX PERL_CORE PERL_MB_OPT PERL_MM_OPT XAUTHORITY XDG_CACHE_HOME XDG_CONFIG_HOME XDG_DATA_HOME XDG_RUNTIME_DIR XDG_STATE_HOME"
FCFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-docompress binpkg-dostrip binpkg-logs binpkg-request-signature buildpkg-live config-protect-if-modified distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles ipc-sandbox merge-sync merge-wait multilib-strict network-sandbox news parallel-fetch pid-sandbox pkgdir-index-trusted preserve-libs protect-owned qa-unresolved-soname-deps sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv usersandbox usersync"
FFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-z,pack-relative-relocs"
LEX="flex"
LINGUAS="en"
MAKEOPTS="-j9"
PKGDIR="/var/cache/binpkgs"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --omit-dir-times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --exclude=/.git"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
SHELL="/bin/bash"
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem persists even after picking up the latest -r release elogind promotion (from a few days ago).
After even taking a heavy hand and emerge -e world, the problem still persists.
However, downgrading to sys-auth/polkit-123 fixes the problem.

What happened between polkit-123 and polkit-124-r1?

EDIT: Bug filed:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/934314
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you! This (downgrading Polkit) just helped me fix the same problem on my computer. It was driving me crazy!
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