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lfs0a
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 Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:03 pm Post subject: Running out of RAM problem with big ebuilds |
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Hi,you all.
I've got a second laptop days ago,and been installing gentoo on it these days.
I got compiled failed this afternoon while I was trying to install clang,
After hours of research,I though it might be RAM problem,
So I add a 8GiB SWAP file(I have 8GiB RAM),and I emerged clang successfully!
So I'm wandering if you guys can check for the amount of RAM+SWAP?
Thank you for your work,you guys have a nice day!  |
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NeddySeagoon
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| Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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lfs0a,
Some ebuilds do that and warn if they will use swap because swap is slow.
You can help things along a bit by using per package MAKEOPTS so that big builds do not need swap because they do less concurrent building.
It's slower than adding real RAM but faster than swap as reading/writing swap does nothing for the build progress.
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lfs0a
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| Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| NeddySeagoon wrote: | lfs0a,
Some ebuilds do that and warn if they will use swap because swap is slow.
You can help things along a bit by using per package MAKEOPTS so that big builds do not need swap because they do less concurrent building.
It's slower than adding real RAM but faster than swap as reading/writing swap does nothing for the build progress. |
Thanks NeddySeagoon.
It would be better if got warn before compile failure.
Have a nice day! |
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CaptainBlood
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| Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/no-tmpfs" instead of default PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" would allow to spare RAM.
Can be set per package the same way as described for MAKEOPTS.e.g. | Code: | user@amd64 ~ $ cat /etc/portage/env/tmpfs-no.conf
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/no-tmpfs"
user@amd64 ~ $ head -1 /etc/portage/package.env/sys-devel::clang.conf
sys-devel/clang tmpfs-no.conf |
This could allow to lower MAKEOPTS a little less...
Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support.
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Hu
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| OP: posting here, particularly with so little detail, is unlikely to lead to a change in the clang ebuild. There are multiple variables that effect whether this will work, and without insight into whether you had made choices that clearly cannot work, it's not clear if this is worth adding a rule to prevent. If you want to pursue this, I suggest that you share: your MAKEOPTS, number of concurrent jobs, amount of free RAM before beginning the failed build and, if practical, an estimate of how much memory the build needed in order to succeed. |
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CaptainBlood
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| Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Building -j3 4Gb RAM:
2024-06-08T11:43:13 >>> sys-devel/clang-18.1.7: 2:23:15
Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support.
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lfs0a
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| CaptainBlood wrote: | PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/no-tmpfs" instead of default PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" would allow to spare RAM.
Can be set per package the same way as described for MAKEOPTS.e.g. | Code: | user@amd64 ~ $ cat /etc/portage/env/tmpfs-no.conf
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/no-tmpfs"
user@amd64 ~ $ head -1 /etc/portage/package.env/sys-devel::clang.conf
sys-devel/clang tmpfs-no.conf |
This could allow to lower MAKEOPTS a little less...
Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support. |
Thanks CaptainBlood,have a nice day! |
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lfs0a
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| Hu wrote: | | OP: posting here, particularly with so little detail, is unlikely to lead to a change in the clang ebuild. There are multiple variables that effect whether this will work, and without insight into whether you had made choices that clearly cannot work, it's not clear if this is worth adding a rule to prevent. If you want to pursue this, I suggest that you share: your MAKEOPTS, number of concurrent jobs, amount of free RAM before beginning the failed build and, if practical, an estimate of how much memory the build needed in order to succeed. |
MAKEOPTS="-j7"
1 job
8GiB RAM
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| lfs0a wrote: |
MAKEOPTS="-j7"
1 job
8GiB RAM
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The generally considered safe rule is #threads = RAM(in GBs)/2.
In your case 7 jobs is way too many. It should be 4 or less.
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Georgi |
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CaptainBlood
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My 2c -j5 should be fine with PORTAGE_TMPDIR on disk.
If confirmed, you could test a higher value at next upgrade.
Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support.
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