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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:43 am    Post subject: [Solved] Cannot update to media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2 Reply with quote

media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2 was stabilized yesterday. I cannot update from 4.11.1-r2:

Code:
# emerge -uND @world

[ebuild     U ] media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2 [4.11.1-r2] USE="pulseaudio qt5%* -debug -designer -qt6% -vlc (-gstreamer%)"
[blocks B     ] media-libs/phonon-gstreamer ("media-libs/phonon-gstreamer" is soft blocking media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (media-libs/phonon-gstreamer-4.10.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
    media-libs/phonon-gstreamer required by @selected

  (media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    >=media-libs/phonon-4.11.0[qt5(+)] required by (kde-apps/dolphin-23.08.5:5/5::gentoo, installed) USE="semantic-desktop -activities -debug -handbook -telemetry -test" ABI_X86="(64)"
    >=media-libs/phonon-4.10.60 required by (media-libs/phonon-gstreamer-4.10.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="alsa network -debug" ABI_X86="(64)"


Not sure how to deal with this. It seems that Phonon Gstreamer is deprecated anyway, but I guess I would have to use VLC backend instead and I don't want to have VLC installed on my system.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentoo's media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2 does indeed block media-libs/phonon-gstreamer, which you have in the @selected set:

phonon-4.12.0-r2.ebuild
Code:
RDEPEND="${DEPEND}
   !media-libs/phonon-gstreamer
   || (
      kde-frameworks/breeze-icons:*
      kde-frameworks/oxygen-icons:*
   )
"

Your only choice if you want to keep media-libs/phonon-gstreamer is staying on Phonon 4.11 while Gentoo has an ebuild for it, and mask >=media-libs/phonon-4.12.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GDH-gentoo wrote:
Gentoo's media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2 does indeed block media-libs/phonon-gstreamer, which you have in the @selected set:

phonon-4.12.0-r2.ebuild
Code:
RDEPEND="${DEPEND}
   !media-libs/phonon-gstreamer
   || (
      kde-frameworks/breeze-icons:*
      kde-frameworks/oxygen-icons:*
   )
"

Your only choice if you want to keep media-libs/phonon-gstreamer is staying on Phonon 4.11 while Gentoo has an ebuild for it, and mask >=media-libs/phonon-4.12.


Indeed, masking >=4.12 seems to be the only solution for now.

I knew I could just do this but considering that 4.12.0-r2 ebuild explicitely blocks media-libs/phonon-gstreamer and that the project is allegedly deprecated, I thought maybe this could be an issue in the long run (i.e. no updated media-libs/phonon-gstreamer ebuild that play wells with >=media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, eventually Gentoo will have a good reason to remove the older ebuild, at which point keeping it will become progressively harder. From your original output, it's not clear to me that you're even using the gstreamer backend. What happens if you emerge --deselect media-libs/phonon-gstreamer ; emerge --ask --update --deep --changed-use @world? I think phonon-gstreamer ought not be in @world, regardless. If you use it at all, it should be pulled in by a dependency from something else.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hu wrote:
What happens if you emerge --deselect media-libs/phonon-gstreamer ; emerge --ask --update --deep --changed-use @world? I think phonon-gstreamer ought not be in @world, regardless. If you use it at all, it should be pulled in by a dependency from something else.

Code:
# emerge --deselect media-libs/phonon-gstreamer ; emerge --ask --update --deep --changed-use @world

>>> Removing media-libs/phonon-gstreamer from "world" favorites file...
Would you like to remove these packages from your world favorites? [Yes/No] y

[ebuild     U ] media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2 [4.11.1-r2] USE="pulseaudio qt5%* -debug -designer -qt6% -vlc (-gstreamer%)"
[uninstall    ] media-libs/phonon-gstreamer-4.10.0-r1  USE="alsa network -debug"
[blocks b     ] media-libs/phonon-gstreamer ("media-libs/phonon-gstreamer" is soft blocking media-libs/phonon-4.12.0-r2)

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]


Then, a --depclean triggers the following packages removal:

Code:
# emerge --depclean

media-libs/phonon-gstreamer: 4.10.0-r1 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-soup: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta: 1.20.6 none none
net-libs/libsoup: 2.74.3 none 3.4.4
media-plugins/gst-plugins-x264: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-wavpack: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-resindvd: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-pulse: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-opus: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-mpg123: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-mpeg2dec: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-flac: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-faad: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvdread: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-dts: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-cdparanoia: 1.22.11 none none
media-plugins/gst-plugins-a52dec: 1.22.11 none none
media-sound/wavpack: 5.7.0 none none
media-sound/cdparanoia: 3.10.2-r8 none none
media-libs/libmpeg2: 0.5.1-r3 none none
media-libs/libdca: 0.0.7 none none
media-libs/faad2: 2.11.1 none none
media-libs/a52dec: 0.7.4-r8 none none


The only drawback I could find of having neither media-libs/phonon-gstreamer installed nor vlc USE flag enabled for media-libs/phonon is that I would no longer have audio/video previews with Dolphin. I could live with that if media-libs/phonon-gstreamer were to be removed from the Portage tree at some point (or if masking >=media-libs/phonon-4.12 becomes an issue).

Would that break something else?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect that any other functionality loss not routed through phonon would have shown up in the outputs you provided. Therefore, I would guess that anything else using phonon (other than Dolphin) might likewise lose those previews, but that would be the extent of the impact. However, I do not use this package, so I cannot be sure there is nothing else lost.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hu wrote:
I expect that any other functionality loss not routed through phonon would have shown up in the outputs you provided. Therefore, I would guess that anything else using phonon (other than Dolphin) might likewise lose those previews, but that would be the extent of the impact. However, I do not use this package, so I cannot be sure there is nothing else lost.


I don't think anything else other than Dolphin was using Phonon on my system. I'll quickly notice if anything else is broken, so far so good!

@GDH-gentoo @Hu Thanks to both of you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is one single use of Phonon in dolphin: video player preview in information panel. Not a big loss.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asturm wrote:
There is one single use of Phonon in dolphin: video player preview in information panel. Not a big loss.

Sound like in that case the dolphin ebuild should move to make it an optional dep behind a USE-flag, like
Code:
video-preview? ( media-libs/phonon[vlc] )

Or is it unfeasible to detach the dep from the build?

Are there other ebuilds where phonon is only used for features enabled by having a video-backend? I see Gwenview in my list, I'd bet that is the same story as with Dolphin. Possibly Okular too?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it is not optional.
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