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When your emerge -puvUD @world goes to just not 1000 lines, more than half of it issues due to change of profile and Python you know it is time for a re-install... 
https://quirinus.one/gentoo/emerge.txt
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Spanik,
The update and profile change are two separate steps.
It sounds like you system is badly out of date but it can be fixed, if you want to do it.
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I guess it is one month since the last @world. Depends on the time it takes. With python update I'm often one week busy (can't be behind the pc all the time...).
I did the profile first as that came up immediately after the emerge --sync.
Is it an option to turn back the profile change and then proceed with the update? more then changed the profile and then the emerge -puvUD @world that gave that output wasn't done. So I don't think that anything changed to the setup.
EDIT: just tried it, no change in the emerge output, same blocking issues.
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Run | Code: | cat /var/lib/portage/world | while read -r p; do if ! equery d $p | grep -vF '* These packages depend on' | grep -q '.'; then echo $p; fi; done
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| Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| toralf wrote: | Run | Code: | cat /var/lib/portage/world | while read -r p; do if ! equery d $p | grep -vF '* These packages depend on' | grep -q '.'; then echo $p; fi; done
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and remove those which you do no longer want to have? |
This just gives me a list of everything in @world and more because every package depends on some others.
I'll just let this install rot till it doesn't function anymore and then go for the complete reinstall. 3 years has been good for a Gentoo install. Never been able to get longer without reinstalling everything. Most often because of Python and/or Perl. I have no idea why programming languages cannot be backward compatible. The C stuff from K&R you still can compile on the latest GCC. But going from whatever version of Python to the next breaks as good as everything.
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| My current personal system was installed sometime pre-2010. I don't have an exact date anymore - although it's probably from around or before when I created my forum account. None of the original hardware remains, but the software has survived multiple hardware replacements without a reinstall. |
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| Spanik wrote: | | This just gives me a list of everything in @world and more |
I'm curious how it can be "more"? |
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| Hu wrote: | | My current personal system was installed sometime pre-2010. I don't have an exact date anymore - although it's probably from around or before when I created my forum account. None of the original hardware remains, but the software has survived multiple hardware replacements without a reinstall. |
That was the case before. I only did reinstalls when I got a new pc and harddrives. But since systemd, pulseaudio, wayland, python, rust and perl being used more and more for critical things the reinstall cycle is becoming shorter and shorter. I'm just getting tired of having to spend every 2 weeks days on the forum needing to bother you guys to get it going again. And then the laptop same thing because you just need one so you have internet to get first one, then the other up again.
In the days I came to linux, every updae of windows needed a reinstall. These days linux is fast approaching that while windows updates are largely fine apart from having to reboot 7x times (at the office at least, don't have one myself at home).
| toralf wrote: | | Spanik wrote: | | This just gives me a list of everything in @world and more |
I'm curious how it can be "more"? |
Also loads of libs and so that I never added to the world. So I have absolutely no idea how to get this back to normal. And right now I cannot spend the week needed to reinstall. The base linux isn't the issue. It is all the other stuff, the little programs you use a couple of times a year.
Sorry, I'm slowly loosing confidence.
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I'm confident we could sort it out either interactively in #gentoo or here with some patience, although I often find IRC easier for these cases.
The summary of fixing this stuff up is https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Sam/Portage_help/Maintaining_a_Gentoo_system (dropping stale Python entries from /etc/portage, check what's in world that cannot be re-emerged because it's masked/removed/etc), and done.
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Ok, I think IRC might be difficult. I don't have the habit (never used it) and with time differences here might be easier.
I'll start with --depclean, then switching to the new profile because I don't like that message each time emerge starts.
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OK, here is fine in that case.
Please don't change profiles yet (it's easier from a clean state and the news/instructions for it say to update and depclean first). As for depcleaning, I suspect you won't be able to yet.
Anyway, you should be able to follow the wiki page I linked and https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Sam/Portage_help/Upgrade_went_wrong (which I forgot about, it's a better fit for you).
If you get stuck, please share in full:
1) the output of 'emerge -p -uvUD @world';
2) the output of 'emerge -pev @world --backtrack=0';
3) the output of 'grep -rsin python /etc/portage' |
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| sam_ wrote: | OK, here is fine in that case.
Please don't change profiles yet (it's easier from a clean state and the news/instructions for it say to update and depclean first). As for depcleaning, I suspect you won't be able to yet.
Anyway, you should be able to follow the wiki page I linked and https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Sam/Portage_help/Upgrade_went_wrong (which I forgot about, it's a better fit for you).
If you get stuck, please share in full:
1) the output of 'emerge -p -uvUD @world';
2) the output of 'emerge -pev @world --backtrack=0';
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Hadn't done the profile upgrade yet.
--depclean got rid of 86 packages. After that I --deselected the blocking packages, all 4 of KDE (and a few others that I don't use anymore). It now starts the emerge -uvUD @world. But after 88 of the 405 packages it blocks with virtualbox-modules. But that is familiar territory. Guess the kernel and virtualbox are out of step. So I'll first have to get the kernel done, then virtualbox in step and then continue the @world.
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Managed to get over the virtualbox issue. Had to remove everything virtualbox related except virtualbox itself. Then update that, then back emerging the rest (extpack, modules) and so on. emerge world could continue for a few hours but now it fails on pipewire (won't say what I think about that).
| Quote: | [691/808] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -Isrc/modules/libpipewire-module-client-node.so.p -Isrc/modules -I../pipewire-1.0.7/src/modules -I. -I../pipewire-1.0.7 -Ispa/include -I../pipewire-1.0.7/spa/include -Isrc -I../pipewire-1.0.7/src -fdiagnostics-color=always -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -Wall -Winvalid-pch -Wextra -Wpedantic -std=gnu11 -fvisibility=hidden -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror=suggest-attribute=format -Wsign-compare -Wpointer-arith -Wpointer-sign -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wimplicit-fallthrough -Wmissing-braces -Wtype-limits -Wvariadic-macros -Wmaybe-uninitialized -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-pedantic -Wdeprecated-declarations -Wunused-result -Werror=return-type -D_GNU_SOURCE -DFASTPATH -Werror=implicit-function-declaration -Werror=int-conversion -Werror=old-style-declaration -Werror=old-style-definition -Werror=missing-parameter-type -Werror=strict-prototypes -march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC -pthread -MD -MQ src/modules/libpipewire-module-client-node.so.p/module-client-node_protocol-native.c.o -MF src/modules/libpipewire-module-client-node.so.p/module-client-node_protocol-native.c.o.d -o src/modules/libpipewire-module-client-node.so.p/module-client-node_protocol-native.c.o -c ../pipewire-1.0.7/src/modules/module-client-node/protocol-native.c
[692/808] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -Isrc/modules/libpipewire-module-protocol-pulse.so.p -Isrc/modules -I../pipewire-1.0.7/src/modules -I. -I../pipewire-1.0.7 -Isrc -I../pipewire-1.0.7/src -Ispa/include -I../pipewire-1.0.7/spa/include -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/elogind -fdiagnostics-color=always -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -Wall -Winvalid-pch -Wextra -Wpedantic -std=gnu11 -fvisibility=hidden -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror=suggest-attribute=format -Wsign-compare -Wpointer-arith -Wpointer-sign -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wimplicit-fallthrough -Wmissing-braces -Wtype-limits -Wvariadic-macros -Wmaybe-uninitialized -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-pedantic -Wdeprecated-declarations -Wunused-result -Werror=return-type -D_GNU_SOURCE -DFASTPATH -Werror=implicit-function-declaration -Werror=int-conversion -Werror=old-style-declaration -Werror=old-style-definition -Werror=missing-parameter-type -Werror=strict-prototypes -march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC -pthread -MD -MQ src/modules/libpipewire-module-protocol-pulse.so.p/module-protocol-pulse_pulse-server.c.o -MF src/modules/libpipewire-module-protocol-pulse.so.p/module-protocol-pulse_pulse-server.c.o.d -o src/modules/libpipewire-module-protocol-pulse.so.p/module-protocol-pulse_pulse-server.c.o -c ../pipewire-1.0.7/src/modules/module-protocol-pulse/pulse-server.c
ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.
* ERROR: media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1::gentoo failed (compile phase):
* ninja -v -j24 -l0 failed
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* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 136: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3679: Called meson-multilib_src_compile
* environment, line 2111: Called multilib-minimal_src_compile
* environment, line 2305: Called multilib_foreach_abi 'multilib-minimal_abi_src_compile'
* environment, line 2572: Called multibuild_foreach_variant '_multilib_multibuild_wrapper' 'multilib-minimal_abi_src_compile'
* environment, line 2265: Called _multibuild_run '_multilib_multibuild_wrapper' 'multilib-minimal_abi_src_compile'
* environment, line 2263: Called _multilib_multibuild_wrapper 'multilib-minimal_abi_src_compile'
* environment, line 621: Called multilib-minimal_abi_src_compile
* environment, line 2299: Called multilib_src_compile
* environment, line 2792: Called meson_src_compile
* environment, line 2178: Called eninja
* environment, line 1498: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* "$@" || die -n "${*} failed"
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* the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv '=media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1::gentoo'`.
* The complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1/temp/environment'.
* Working directory: '/var/tmp/portage/media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1/work/pipewire-1.0.7-abi_x86_64.amd64'
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1/work/pipewire-1.0.7'
>>> Failed to emerge media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1, Log file:
>>> '/var/tmp/portage/media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1/temp/build.log' |
The log is here: https://quirinus.one/gentoo/pipewire-1.0.7-r1.log
emerge --info '=media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1::gentoo
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Timestamp of repository gentoo: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 10:30:00 +0000
Head commit of repository gentoo: 35d25f36ce62f15dd1b5d76d40f946692f53a032
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CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/dconf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c"
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emerge -pqv '=media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1::gentoo'
| Quote: | daw ~ # emerge -pqv '=media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1::gentoo'
[ebuild U ] media-video/pipewire-1.0.7-r1 [1.0.4] USE="X dbus extra ffmpeg readline ssl -bluetooth -doc -echo-cancel -flatpak -gsettings -gstreamer -ieee1394 -jack-client -jack-sdk -liblc3 -lv2 -man -modemmanager -pipewire-alsa -roc (-selinux) -sound-server (-system-service) -systemd -test -v4l -zeroconf" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild U ] media-video/wireplumber-0.5.3 [0.4.17-r1] USE="elogind (-system-service) -systemd -test" LUA_SINGLE_TARGET="lua5-4 -lua5-3"
!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2021::gentoo (masked by: OFL license(s))
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. |
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Ok, so the desktop has become unusable because of pipewire that I do not use trowing an error. No internetbrowser anymore.
Anybody an idea?
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With -j24 the last log lines rarely give the needed information. But the log itself shows an error: | Code: | /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/13/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/samba/libldbsamba-samba4.so: undefined reference to `ldb_msg_element_is_inaccessible@LDB_2.7.2'
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| Try emerge -v1 /usr/lib64/samba/libldbsamba-samba4.so or USE="-ffmpeg" temporarily on pipewire. |
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| sam_ wrote: | | Try emerge -v1 /usr/lib64/samba/libldbsamba-samba4.so or USE="-ffmpeg" temporarily on pipewire. |
Looks like "USE='-ffmpeg' emerge --update --oneshot pipewire" made it get over it. So far it is 67 packages in the remaining 157. We'll see tomorrow morning if it gets to the end.
Thanks for the help.
But I don't get why pipewire insists on installing emacs... 
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| With the default USE flags here, emerge --pretend --tree --verbose media-video/pipewire does not attempt to install emacs. What do you see that made you think it would? |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Hu wrote: | | With the default USE flags here, emerge --pretend --tree --verbose media-video/pipewire does not attempt to install emacs. What do you see that made you think it would? |
I saw it passing on the screen while running "USE='-ffmpeg' emerge --oneshot pipewire". After that it continued with xemacs. I was very surprised to see an audio package emerge that to be honest. But just that specific emerge ran about 14 packages.
Now I have to make sure that pipewire doesn't actually do something, that is just there to let some packages compile. I have no idea why there is layer upon layer on top of Alsa. After all, all drivers that do the real work still are Alsa. It looks like "they" want to do something "real great" with audio but replacing Alsa with something better is too much hard work where you really have to know what you do. So we just add some cruft on top of it with a new name and some "features" that don't really matter but sound (pun not intended) great.
This weekend I'll try to change profiles. I hope it doesn't turn out as toxic.
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