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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:37 pm    Post subject: Install static-dev while using udev/devfs tmpfs Reply with quote

I am trying to install sys-fs/static-dev. Running 'sudo emerge -avuDN @world' I get the following list of packages to install:

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│[ebuild  N     ] acct-group/uucp-0-r3::gentoo  0 KiB
│[ebuild  N     ] sys-apps/makedev-3.23.1-r3::gentoo  USE="-build (-selinux)" 0 KiB
│[ebuild  N     ] sys-fs/static-dev-0.1-r3::gentoo  0 KiB


But when attempting to merge these packages, I get a pre-merge check error:

Code:
We have detected that you currently use udev or devfs or devtmpfs
and this ebuild cannot install to the same mount-point.
ERROR: sys-fs/static-dev-0.1-r3::gentoo failed (pretend phase):
  Cannot install on udev/devfs tmpfs


/dev is a devtmpfs and I don't see an entry for it in fstab.
fstab says /dev/shm is a tmpfs
fstab says /dev/pts is devpts with options 'gid=5,mode=620'

What needs to be changed to enable installing static-dev?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Install static-dev while using udev/devfs tmpfs Reply with quote

bulletbill22 wrote:
/dev is a devtmpfs and I don't see an entry for it in fstab.

Look into your kernel and check if you have:
Code:
Device Drivers  --->
    Generic Driver Options  --->
        -*- Maintain a devtmpfs filesystem to mount at /dev
            [*]   Automount devtmpfs at /dev, after the kernel mounted the rootfs

In <Help> you see the reason why it is hard enabled:
Code:
Selected by [y]:
  - GENTOO_LINUX_UDEV [=y] && GENTOO_LINUX [=y]

Look now into:
Code:
Gentoo Linux  --->
    [*]   Linux dynamic and persistent device naming (userspace devfs) support


bulletbill22 wrote:
What needs to be changed to enable installing static-dev?

Kernel and you must de-install udev ... I DONT RECOMMEND ... If you really want this you have to wait for our forums legend Neddy ... :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Install static-dev while using udev/devfs tmpfs Reply with quote

bulletbill22 wrote:
I am trying to install sys-fs/static-dev

Bear in mind you will not be able to run xorg, all the X input and video drivers now in Portage depend on udev.

Essentially only useful for console system.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bear in mind you will not be able to run xorg, all the X input and video drivers now in Portage depend on udev.

Essentially only useful for console system.


Well this server is mostly only console, but I do sometimes run X apps with X forwarding.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

X11 forwarding causes the application to talk to the Xorg server, which would be running where you display a GUI and have a keyboard. You don't need to run (or even install) Xorg on the server if you only want to run X11 applications on the server and render them on your desktop.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've switched from udev to static-dev back in 2016, for a while.

You'll have to boot a live environment, chroot your gentoo, but without `/dev` and then install static-dev.
...
Assuming I remember the steps correctly.

As for Xorg, you can certainly run it. There's just more steps to setting it up:

Put -udev in your make.conf's USE flags.
Write ebuilds for xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse.
Put those ebuilds into your local repository.
Replace xf86-input-libinput with the other two above.
And the hard part - write your own Xorg.conf, because you have no udev any more.
Even harder part - if you are using an Intel gpu, you will have to be explicit about xorg module loading order. Don't know about Intel Arc or other dedicated gpus.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@bstaletic Thanks for the tips. This server has no GPU and doesn't run any X apps except via X11 forwarding.
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