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Gentoopc
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Please tell me on the forum, why not replace the penguin? The kernel has become serious and is used by serious people and companies. why not take something like that as a symbol?
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Gentoopc
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I don't write well. help with this. Post from across the Gentoo forum. The Linux kernel has already become more than what it was originally intended to be. what exists now as a symbol is essentially not one. |
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pietinger
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Gentoopc wrote: | | I don't write well. help with this. Post from across the Gentoo forum. The Linux kernel has already become more than what it was originally intended to be. what exists now as a symbol is essentially not one. |
I won't help to write an email - but you can send him a link to this thread, since you already explained in the 1st post exactly why our “Tux” should be replaced.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Please don't encourage them. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| asturm wrote: | | Please don't encourage them. |
(you're quite right - but what else can you write in response to such nonsense)
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| businessey business people are here to ruin things people enjoy, again. |
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pjp
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April Fools isn't for another 8+ months.
| lik3n wrote: | | businessey business people are here to ruin things people enjoy, again. :lol: |
Business doesn't care. This has to be some kind of trolling.
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Gentoopc
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| Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | April Fools isn't for another 8+ months.
| lik3n wrote: | | businessey business people are here to ruin things people enjoy, again. |
Business doesn't care. This has to be some kind of trolling. |
Companies spend millions of money to choose the right logo. it is very important. You cannot underestimate the power of the logo. But the main thing is that you are all or system administrators or programmers and men, you should be closer to images of strict schemes, not kittens, penguins and other nonsense, which is more suitable for beautiful ladies. I just offered to leave the diapers and start with the main one. There is no attempt to offend someone. |
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lars_the_bear
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You'll take my penguin when you pry my cold, dead fingers off it 
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Gentoopc
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You have a talisman Penguin. The talisman and the symbol are completely different things. Leave the Penguin talisman and make a symbol worthy of adults. The talisman and the symbol are different things. |
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lars_the_bear
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You have a talisman Penguin. The talisman and the symbol are completely different things. Leave the Penguin talisman and make a symbol worthy of adults. The talisman and the symbol are different things. |
It's not a talisman, it's a mascot. My commercial Linux customers couldn't care less about the Linux mascot, because they never see it. They all buy Linux from commercial vendors like Red Hat and Canonical. These businesses spend a lot of time and money on their logos -- money which I, personally, think is wasted. But that's their business.
'Tux' symbolizes openness and approachability. Replacing him/her with another anonymous, undistinguished corporate circle design would be a terrible idea.
But, as has already been said, nobody who looks at this forum has any influence over Linux branding. There's no point discussing it further.
BR, Lars. |
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| If businesses try so hard to choose a good logo, how are there so many horrible logos used by respectable businesses? |
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Next thing you know, Larry the Cow won't be safe. 
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pjp
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| Gentoopc wrote: | | Companies spend millions of money to choose the right logo. it is very important. You cannot underestimate the power of the logo. |
And yet Linus probably spent little if anything at all. Yet most of the million-dollar logo businesses you mention likely use Linux in some manner.
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It occurs to me that having a silly, cartoon logo never hurt Android. And having a Penguin as a logo didn't stop Penguin Books being successful.
BR, Lars. |
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| pietinger wrote: | | asturm wrote: | | Please don't encourage them. |
:lol:
(you're quite right - but what else can you write in response to such nonsense) |
Nothing?
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| logrusx wrote: | | pietinger wrote: | | asturm wrote: | | Please don't encourage them. |
(you're quite right - but what else can you write in response to such nonsense) |
Nothing? |
Boring, where's the fun in that? 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Linux kernel coat of arms |
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| Gentoopc wrote: | Please tell me on the forum, why not replace the penguin? The kernel has become serious and is used by serious people and companies. why not take something like that as a symbol?
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Please keep in mind that the name "Gentoo" has a dependency on a Penguin as a logo for the Linux kernel. Gentoo is a fast (the fastest?) species of Penguins, which is a direct reference to Tux the Penguin. So replacing Tux would require a rename of everything related to Gentoo.
Besides that, I like Tux
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| Please don't change the Tux mascot, I'm about to get a (Gentoo variation of) Tux tattoo and the last thing I need is for Tux to be swapped out with some boring corporate logo. |
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NeglectedRudderPug
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| John R. Graham wrote: | Next thing you know, Larry the Cow won't be safe.
- John |
Noooooo, don't give them ideas! Leave Larry alone! 
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All coats have an arm, the arm you see is like the leg but a bit higher up. The number of times I've gone to the nhs saying doctor doctor, my arm hurts when I move it like this and he says that's your leg you twit, here's a level so you can measure it.
Them and buttons is what makes the coat you see. If they didn't have those they'd be what is called the tank top. What that is what is being proposed at the top is what is called the vest. A one month too late vest at that.
Now I don't know who does your knitting but if I showed that pattern to one of my knitters they'd chase me away.
Could be a waistcoat without the leg bit.
Or a trouser.
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I think he gave up and went away.
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