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heikkikk
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 Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:57 am Post subject: Want a Split-usr systemd profile |
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Hi.
I was asked to switch to split-usr
I had the profile default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd
so i have systemd, and i would like to keep it if possible.
i already ran the guide to the point where it says 6. Switch to a merged-usr profile.
so i ran it.
and now i noticed there is no profile that has both merged-usr and systemd.
I also use Gnome as seen from my current profile.
Any ideas on how to proceed?
When i try to run emerge -avuDU --backtrack=120 --verbose-conflicts @world
i see there are packages with -systemd (systemd disabled)
I want to keep it.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Want a Split-usr systemd profile |
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| heikkikk wrote: | | I was asked to switch to split-usr |
Who asked you? systemd no longer supports non-/usr merged filesystem layouts, so there aren't any split-usr 23.0 systemd profiles.
| heikkikk wrote: | | I want to keep it. |
Sorry, systemd devolopers have decided that you can't, they don't allow it. Gentoo is just following upstream here.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Want a Split-usr systemd profile |
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| heikkikk wrote: | When i try to run emerge -avuDU --backtrack=120 --verbose-conflicts @world
i see there are packages with -systemd (systemd disabled) |
If you have problems with the emerge output, please share it.
Some packages (e.g. installkernel) can have USE=-systemd without impacting systemd as init system. |
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heikkikk
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Want a Split-usr systemd profile |
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| GDH-gentoo wrote: | | heikkikk wrote: | | I was asked to switch to split-usr |
Who asked you? systemd no longer supports non-/usr merged filesystem layouts, so there aren't any split-usr 23.0 systemd profiles.
| heikkikk wrote: | | I want to keep it. |
Sorry, systemd devolopers have decided that you can't, they don't allow it. Gentoo is just following upstream here. |
So... I can safely switch to default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/gnome/systemd
now that i have run the merge-usr -script?
right?
EDIT: And the portage asked me to switch to split-usr |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Want a Split-usr systemd profile |
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| heikkikk wrote: | So... I can safely switch to default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/gnome/systemd
now that i have run the merge-usr -script?
right? |
Read the the news item carefully. Step #3 of the migration procedure applies to your setup; you must migrate first to default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd/merged-usr according to the other news item, and then continue the migration to default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/gnome/systemd from step #4 of the procedure.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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heikkikk,
In the past, 17 and 17.1 profiles were default split-usr, so it was not mentioned in the name. Now 23 profiles are by default merged-usr, so you don't see it in the name. Also, as somebody above mentioned, systemd doesn ot support split-usr anymore.
And last but not least, I don't know why portage asked you to switch to split-usr, but you better save messages like that so you can ask for clarification because I'm pretty certain portage didn't ask you to do that, but the message meant something else.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Want a Split-usr systemd profile |
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heikkikk,
I would like to confirm that this is the only correct information/procedure:
| GDH-gentoo wrote: | [...] you must migrate first to default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd/merged-usr according to the other news item,
and then continue the migration to default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/gnome/systemd from step #4 of the procedure. |
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This is what i keep getting when trying to run emerge -avuDU --backtrack=120 --verbose-conflicts @world
logs and command outputts: https://3.14.fi/spidermonkey/ |
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The linked logs show problems with spidermonkey, probably caused by rust.
At which step are you stuck? Transition from split-usr to merged-user? |
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heikkikk
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| sMueggli wrote: | The linked logs show problems with spidermonkey, probably caused by rust.
At which step are you stuck? Transition from split-usr to merged-user? |
So, i have run the merge-usr script and i have switched to the profile
| Code: | # eselect profile show
Current /etc/portage/make.profile symlink:
default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd/merged-usr |
but after that i never got the spidermonkey compiled at leasts no tusing the command
| Code: | | emerge -avuDU --backtrack=120 --verbose-conflicts @world |
You mentionet rust, so this is my only rust version installed:
| Code: | # eselect rust list
Available Rust versions:
[1] rust-1.79.0 * |
edit:
Trying to install & reinstall:
[ebuild R ] dev-lang/rust-1.79.0:stable/1.79::gentoo USE="lto rustfmt (-big-endian) -clippy -debug -dist -doc (-llvm-libunwind) (-miri) (-nightly) (-parallel-compiler) -profiler -rust-analyzer -rust-src (-system-bootstrap) (-system-llvm) -test -verify-sig -wasm" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse2" LLVM_TARGETS="(X86) -AArch64 -AMDGPU -ARC -ARM -AVR -BPF -CSKY -DirectX -Hexagon -Lanai -LoongArch -M68k -MSP430 -Mips -NVPTX -PowerPC -RISCV -SPIRV -Sparc -SystemZ -VE -WebAssembly -XCore -Xtensa" 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-lang/rust-bin-1.79.0:stable::gentoo USE="rustfmt (-big-endian) -clippy -doc (-prefix) -profiler -rust-analyzer -rust-src -verify-sig" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse2" 0 KiB
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I wonder why your system is trying to install version 115.9.1 when 115.10.0 is already up to date:
| Code: | $ eix spidermonkey
* dev-lang/spidermonkey
Verfügbare Versionen:
(102) 102.15.0^t
(115) 115.9.1^t 115.10.0^t ~115.11.0^t ~115.12.0^t ~115.13.0^t
{clang debug +jit lto test CPU_FLAGS_ARM="neon"}
Startseite: https://spidermonkey.dev https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/js/index.html
Beschreibung: SpiderMonkey is Mozilla's JavaScript engine written in C and C++ |
I don't have it, but I can see the differences between the two versions:
| Code: | ~ $ emerge -pvD spidermonkey
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Dependency resolution took 3.30 s (backtrack: 0/20).
[ebuild N ] dev-lang/rust-bin-1.77.1:stable::gentoo USE="(-big-endian) -clippy -doc (-prefix) -profiler -rust-analyzer -rust-src -rustfmt -verify-sig" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse2" 155.314 KiB
[ebuild UD ] virtual/rust-1.77.1:0/llvm-17::gentoo [1.79.0:0/llvm-18::gentoo] USE="-profiler -rustfmt" 0 KiB
[ebuild NS ] dev-build/autoconf-2.13-r8:2.1::gentoo [2.71-r7:2.71::gentoo] USE="-test% (-emacs%) (-verify-sig%)" 434 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-lang/spidermonkey-115.10.0:115::gentoo USE="jit -clang -debug -lto -test" 495.946 KiB
Total: 4 packages (1 downgrade, 2 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 651.692 KiB
~ $
~ $
~ $ emerge -pvD =spidermonkey-115.9.1
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Dependency resolution took 3.22 s (backtrack: 0/20).
[ebuild N ] dev-python/ensurepip-setuptools-70.3.0::gentoo 910 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-python/ensurepip-wheels-100::gentoo 0 KiB
[ebuild NS ] dev-build/autoconf-2.13-r8:2.1::gentoo [2.71-r7:2.71::gentoo] USE="-test% (-emacs%) (-verify-sig%)" 434 KiB
[ebuild NS ] dev-lang/python-3.11.9-r1:3.11::gentoo [3.12.3-r1:3.12::gentoo] USE="ensurepip gdbm ncurses readline sqlite ssl -bluetooth -build -debug -examples -libedit -pgo -test -tk -valgrind -verify-sig" 0 KiB
[ebuild NS ] sys-devel/llvm-17.0.6:17::gentoo [18.1.8-r1:18/18.1::gentoo] USE="binutils-plugin libffi ncurses xml zstd -debug -debuginfod -doc -exegesis -libedit -test -verify-sig -xar% -z3" LLVM_TARGETS="(AArch64) (AMDGPU) (ARM) (AVR) (BPF) (Hexagon) (Lanai) (LoongArch) (MSP430) (Mips) (NVPTX) (PowerPC) (RISCV) (Sparc) (SystemZ) (VE) (WebAssembly) (X86) (XCore) -ARC -CSKY -DirectX -M68k -SPIRV -Xtensa" 0 KiB
[ebuild NS ] sys-devel/llvm-toolchain-symlinks-17:17::gentoo [18:18::gentoo] USE="native-symlinks -multilib-symlinks" 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-lang/spidermonkey-115.9.1:115::gentoo USE="jit -clang -debug -lto -test" 496.184 KiB
Total: 7 packages (3 new, 4 in new slots), Size of downloads: 497.526 KiB |
Could it be that you still have outdated entries in your /etc/portage/package.use (especially: old python settings) ?
Also check who needs it:
| Code: | | emerge -cpv spidermonkey |
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| pietinger wrote: |
Could it be that you still have outdated entries in your /etc/portage/package.use (especially: old python settings) ? |
Not in make.conf but in package.use/python i do have these:
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*/* PYTHON_TARGETS: python3_10 python3_11
*/* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_10
dev-python/moddb PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_10
games-util/lutris PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_10
app-office/libreoffice-bin PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11
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should i remove it?
I have:
| Code: | # eselect python list
Available Python interpreters, in order of preference:
[1] python3.12
[2] python3.11
[3] python3.10
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emerge -cpv spidermonkey
Calculating dependencies... done!
dev-lang/spidermonkey-102.15.0 pulled in by:
dev-libs/gjs-1.76.2 requires >=dev-lang/spidermonkey-102.2.0:102
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heikkikk
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| Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| pietinger wrote: | | heikkikk wrote: | | Code: | | app-office/libreoffice-bin PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 |
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Hmmm ... see: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929347
... Maybe it is best to remove libreoffice-bin completely (and use libreoffice instead later) ... together with this line ?
Edit:
Okay, now what needs gjs ? |
| Code: | Calculating dependencies... done!
dev-libs/gjs-1.76.2 pulled in by:
gnome-base/gnome-shell-44.3 requires >=dev-libs/gjs-1.73.1[cairo]
gnome-extra/gnome-characters-44.0 requires >=dev-libs/gjs-1.50
gnome-extra/gnome-shell-extensions-44.0 requires >=dev-libs/gjs-1.29
gnome-extra/sushi-44.2 requires >=dev-libs/gjs-1.40
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But how do i derermine who requires exactly require dev-lang/spidermonkey-115.9.1:115::gentoo
this version is tried to install with emerge -avuDU --backtrack=120 --verbose-conflicts @world
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| Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, sorry I have not looked at the output of "emerge --info" ... here it shows clearly you are on a gnome/systemd profile.
Okay, I would like that you uncomment (or delete) both lines:
| Code: | */* PYTHON_TARGETS: python3_10 python3_11
*/* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_10 |
(and please check also that there are no settings in your make.conf for python)
AND THEN I would like to see the output of emerge -uUDvp @world
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| pietinger wrote: | Yes, sorry I have not looked at the output of "emerge --info" ... here it shows clearly you are on a gnome/systemd profile.
Okay, I would like that you uncomment (or delete) both lines:
| Code: | */* PYTHON_TARGETS: python3_10 python3_11
*/* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_10 |
(and please check also that there are no settings in your make.conf for python)
AND THEN I would like to see the output of emerge -uUDvp @world |
| Code: | # emerge -uUDvp @world
!!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "gnome-extra/nautilus-dropbox" has unmet requirements.
- gnome-extra/nautilus-dropbox-2020.03.04-r1::gentoo USE="-debug" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="-python3_10 -python3_11"
The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
exactly-one-of ( python_single_target_python3_10 python_single_target_python3_11 )
(dependency required by "@selected" [set])
(dependency required by "@world" [argument])
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No problem: Add it to your package.use:
| Code: | | gnome-extra/nautilus-dropbox PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 |
and do the emerge -uUDvp again.
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| pietinger wrote: | No problem: Add it to your package.use:
| Code: | | gnome-extra/nautilus-dropbox PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 |
and do the emerge -uUDvp again. |
great, then comes:
| Code: | !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "media-video/vidcutter" has unmet requirements.
- media-video/vidcutter-6.0.5.1_p20230201::gentoo USE="" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="-python3_10 -python3_11"
The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
any-of ( python_targets_python3_10 python_targets_python3_11 ) any-of ( python_targets_python3_10 python_targets_python3_11 )
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I ended up adding these to package.use:
| Code: | gnome-extra/nautilus-dropbox PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11
media-video/vidcutter PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_11
media-tv/kodi PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 |
and these i left there, just in case:
| Code: | dev-python/moddb PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_10
games-util/lutris PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_10
app-office/libreoffice-bin PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 |
Then i ran emerge -uUDvp @world
The output:
https://3.14.fi/emerge-uUDvp_world_2024-07-28-21-19.txt |
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Okay, the problem with vlc we can handle ... but there are many weird settings ... e.g.:
| Code: | | >=dev-python/gpep517-8[python_targets_python3_10(-)] required by (net-misc/youtube-dl-2021.12.17-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="userland_GNU yt-dlp -test" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_10 -python3_8 -python3_9" |
We need more info:
- the content of /var/lib/portage/world, and
- grep -r --exclude=linux* "" /etc/portage
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heikkikk
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| Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| pietinger wrote: | Okay, the problem with vlc we can handle ... but there are many weird settings ... e.g.:
| Code: | | >=dev-python/gpep517-8[python_targets_python3_10(-)] required by (net-misc/youtube-dl-2021.12.17-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="userland_GNU yt-dlp -test" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_10 -python3_8 -python3_9" |
We need more info:
- the content of /var/lib/portage/world, and
- grep -r --exclude=linux* "" /etc/portage |
world:
https://3.14.fi/world-2024-07-28-21-36.txt
grep output:
https://3.14.fi/grep-r--exclude=linux_etc_portage.txt |
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Okay ...
- this is an old installation (e.g. net-misc/youtube-dl does not exist anymore; now it is net-misc/yt-dlp)
- no update of python (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2024-05-09-python3-12.html )
- and you have gnome- and kde-applications ... with wayland ...
- and some applications from overlays (brave)
- some weird settings in Use-flags ("kwallet ... -kwallet")
- a settings where I really dont know if both can be activated (INPUT_DEVICES="evdev ... libinput"; AFAIK you can use only one of them)
- in your world-file: net-libs/webkit-gtk:4
- strange settings for LUA:
| Code: | /etc/portage/package.use/lua:*/* LUA_SINGLE_TARGET: -lua5-1 -lua5-2 -lua5-3 lua5-4
/etc/portage/package.use/lua:
/etc/portage/package.use/lua:media-video/vlc LUA_SINGLE_TARGET: lua5-1
/etc/portage/package.use/lua:dev-libs/libpeas LUA_SINGLE_TARGET: lua5-1 |
- old mask (which should not be relevant):
| Code: | | /etc/portage/package.mask/zz-Heikin:=net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.32.1 |
... what could possibly go wrong 
What I would suggest:
1. Make a backup of your world-file and all files in -r /etc/portage/*
2. Delete (yes, I know it is not recommended; but we have a backup) these lines in your world-file:
| Code: | net-libs/webkit-gtk:4
www-client/brave-bin::brave-overlay
app-office/libreoffice-bin
dev-lang/python
dev-lang/ruby
dev-libs/cudnn
dev-libs/libaio
media-video/ffmpeg
net-misc/youtube-dl |
3. Create a file for vlc in /etc/portage/package.use/vlc with this content:
| Code: | # temporary because of bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/864721
media-video/vlc -vaapi |
4. Delete the files /etc/portage/package.unmask, /etc/portage/package.use/lua, /etc/portage/package.use/zz-autounmask (yes, you have to allow a lot of things later)
5. Edit your make.conf and delete the line: RUBY_TARGETS="ruby31" and correct your USE= (some settings you have already through your desktop-profile)(decide if KWALLLET y/n):
| Code: | | USE="avif geolocation gmic gphoto2 -graphicsmagick jpeg2k kwallet lua opencl tools webp -libav ffmpeg firmware imagemagick postscript svg2 visio inkjar webkit networkmanager appindicator aalib xinerama minizip libcaca opus lensfun krita color-management widgets graphite v4l v4l2 vaapi vdpau vulkan chromecast flac imap xml openssl joystick charmap flickr raw gimp exiv2 scanner samba script rustfmt" |
6. And again: emerge -uUDvp @world (allow the questions for unmasking)
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| game over. My NVMe disk died, so can't continue anymorte. Thanks for the help anyhow.... |
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| heikkikk wrote: | | game over. My NVMe disk died, so can't continue anymorte. [...] |
That's sad ... but also a chance to perform a completely new installation (even if you have an old backup).
| heikkikk wrote: | | [...] Thanks for the help anyhow.... |
You are very Welcome ! 
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