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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:20 am    Post subject: [SOLVED] FTP over HTTP Reply with quote

Hi,

I believe one can "GET" FTP data via HTTP with OSS such as Apache mod_proxy_ftp.
Is there an OSS solution to "PUT" FTP data via HTTP?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing I know of. AFAIR FTP uses different TCP connections for session management and data transfer making it difficult to shove through a stateless http, so the proxy would have to do a lot of work for little benefit really.

What are you trying to do though? FTP is obsoleted anyway; it's not secure, it doesn't get along with NATs, and other protocols do that better.
If it's not just a gimmic, you'd be better of with HTTP POST form or ssh (be it sshfs, scp, sftp or rsync, depending on what interface you like most), even if what you described was possible.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't FTP use two ports (around 20-25 range)? My guess is that would be quite complicated to achieve.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zucca wrote:
Didn't FTP use two ports (around 20-25 range)? My guess is that would be quite complicated to achieve.


Only in active mode which is the FTP server actually connecting to the client. That's why I don't find the NAT argument relevant as there's passive mode as well. And that's the default mode. Honestly I can't think of reasons to configure your FTP in active mode, although I've seen it through the years.

Also isn't NAT going to be obsoleted by IPv6?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

logrusx wrote:
Also isn't NAT going to be obsoleted by IPv6?
Mass adoption of IPv6 far exceeds even the development time of Duke Nukem Forever. :P
And in addition to that I've heard of IPv10, which should work as a drop-in replacement for IPv4. Although... I can't see that taking off any time soon either.
So, I guess IPv4 life-support continues into foreseeable future.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zucca wrote:
drop-in replacement for IPv4.


That sounds like sci-fi to me. I don't think a drop-in replacement for IPv4 is possible. However I'm seeing more and more devices supporting IPv6. And some of them are pretty old actually, I'm only recently seeing they are using it, probably because my ISP only recently adopted it.

Don't ask me why I've allowed this, I live with other people who are not concerned with privacy or security.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: FTP over HTTP Reply with quote

Back to topic, please.


Vieri wrote:
Hi,

I believe one can "GET" FTP data via HTTP with OSS such as Apache mod_proxy_ftp.
Is there an OSS solution to "PUT" FTP data via HTTP?

Regards

As the apache mod_proxy_ftp page https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_proxy_ftp.html#ftpnonget already says
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Currently, only GET is supported for FTP in mod_proxy. You can of course use HTTP upload (POST or PUT) through an Apache proxy.

it is not possible.

If you want to allow users to upload with a browser, then a software like https://github.com/filebrowser/filebrowser can be an alternative.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks
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