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 Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 4:49 am Post subject: KDE Apps and -wayland still possible? |
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I will not use wayland.
I use XFCE4 desktop environment.
I do use a couple of KDE ecosystem applications like kdenlive, and QT applications like Freecad.
With tonight's sync and update attempt portage seems hell-bent on having me enable wayland support:
| Code: | typhoon:/etc/portage) user% sudo emerge -uDNav --with-bdeps=y @world
Password:
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Dependency resolution took 18.81 s (backtrack: 0/20).
[ebuild U ] kde-frameworks/extra-cmake-modules-6.5.0-r1::gentoo [5.116.0::gentoo] USE="-doc -test" 333 KiB
[ebuild NS ] dev-qt/qtnetworkauth-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo [5.15.14:5/5.15::gentoo] USE="-test (-debug%)" 144 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/plasma-wayland-protocols-1.13.0::gentoo 44 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/wayland-protocols-1.36::gentoo USE="-test" 94 KiB
[ebuild NS ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.10.7:6.10.7::gentoo [6.10.0:6.10.0::gentoo] USE="experimental symlink -build" 563 KiB
[ebuild R ] media-libs/mesa-24.1.6::gentoo USE="X llvm (opengl) osmesa proprietary-codecs vaapi valgrind vdpau vulkan wayland* zstd -d3d9 -debug -lm-sensors -opencl (-selinux) -test -unwind -vulkan-overlay -xa" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse2" LLVM_SLOT="18 -15 -16 -17" VIDEO_CARDS="-d3d12 (-freedreno) -intel -lavapipe (-lima) -nouveau -nvk (-panfrost) -r300 -r600 -radeon -radeonsi (-v3d) (-vc4) -virgl (-vivante) -vmware -zink" 0 KiB
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.41-r1:3::gentoo USE="X cups introspection vim-syntax wayland* (-aqua) -broadway -cloudproviders -colord -examples -gtk-doc -sysprof -test -xinerama" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
[ebuild R ] dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4:6/6.7.2::gentoo USE="X concurrent cups dbus gtk gui icu libinput libproxy mysql network nls opengl sql sqlite ssl syslog tslib udev vulkan wayland* widgets xml (zstd) -accessibility -brotli -eglfs -evdev -gles2-only -gssapi -journald -oci8 -odbc -postgres -renderdoc -sctp -test" 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtwayland-6.7.2-r3:6/6.7.2::gentoo USE="vulkan -accessibility -compositor -qml -test" 1,097 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kf-env-6:6::gentoo [5:5::gentoo] 0 KiB
[uninstall ] kde-frameworks/kf-env-5:5::gentoo
[blocks b ] kde-frameworks/kf-env:5 ("kde-frameworks/kf-env:5" is soft blocking kde-frameworks/kf-env-6)
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kcoreaddons-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="dbus -debug -doc -test (-fam%)" 2,507 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kconfig-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="dbus qml* -debug -doc -test" 336 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/ki18n-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_12 -python3_10 -python3_11 (-python3_13)" 3,037 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 4,161 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/karchive-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="zstd -debug -doc -test" 1,010 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kdbusaddons-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="X -debug -doc -test" 46 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kirigami-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="openmp -debug -examples -test" 540 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kcodecs-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test" 2,433 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kwindowsystem-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="X wayland* -debug -doc -test" 2,330 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kitemviews-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 2,201 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kglobalaccel-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test (-kf6compat%)" 2,241 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/solid-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -ios -test" 306 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/sonnet-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="hunspell qml* -aspell -debug -designer -doc -test" 2,376 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/prison-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -qml -test" 56 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/attica-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test" 67 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/knotifications-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc (-X%*) (-dbus%*) (-phonon%) (-qml%) (-speech%)" 2,280 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kdoctools-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="nls -debug -test" 446 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kcompletion-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 2,270 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kcrash-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="X -debug -doc -test" 29 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kpackage-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -man -test" 176 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kfilemetadata-6.5.0-r1:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="exif ffmpeg pdf taglib -debug -doc -epub -mobi -test" 581 KiB
[ebuild N ] kde-plasma/plasma-activities-6.1.4:6::gentoo USE="-debug -doc -test" 70 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kservice-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="man -debug -doc -test" 2,383 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kjobwidgets-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test (-X%*)" 2,204 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/knewstuff-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -opds" 3,021 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kded-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="man -debug" 33 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kauth-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="policykit -debug -doc -test" 2,244 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/breeze-icons-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-test" 2,180 KiB
[uninstall ] kde-frameworks/breeze-icons-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo USE="-test"
[blocks b ] kde-frameworks/breeze-icons:5 ("kde-frameworks/breeze-icons:5" is soft blocking kde-frameworks/breeze-icons-6.5.0)
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kguiaddons-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="X dbus -debug -doc -test -wayland (-kf6compat%)" 81 KiB
[uninstall ] kde-frameworks/kguiaddons-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo USE="X dbus -debug -doc (-kf6compat) -test -wayland"
[blocks b ] kde-frameworks/kguiaddons:5[-kf6compat(-)] ("kde-frameworks/kguiaddons:5[-kf6compat(-)]" is soft blocking kde-frameworks/kguiaddons-6.5.0)
[ebuild N ] kde-frameworks/kcolorscheme-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo USE="-debug -doc" 45 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kdeclarative-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc" 2,373 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kconfigwidgets-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test (-man%*)" 2,498 KiB
[ebuild N ] kde-frameworks/ksvg-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo USE="-debug -doc -test" 82 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kiconthemes-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 1,258 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/ktextwidgets-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -speech -test" 2,449 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kxmlgui-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 2,858 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kbookmarks-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test" 1,083 KiB
[ebuild N ] kde-frameworks/qqc2-desktop-style-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo USE="-debug -test" 86 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kwallet-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="man -debug -doc -gpg -test (-kf6compat%)" 345 KiB
[uninstall ] kde-frameworks/kwallet-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo USE="man -debug -doc -gpg (-kf6compat) -test"
[blocks b ] kde-frameworks/kwallet:5[-kf6compat(-)] ("kde-frameworks/kwallet:5[-kf6compat(-)]" is soft blocking kde-frameworks/kwallet-6.5.0)
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kio-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="X acl handbook kwallet -debug -designer -doc -test -wayland% (-kerberos%) (-kf6compat%)" 3,272 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/knotifyconfig-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -phonon" 2,330 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/purpose-6.5.0-r1:6/6.5::gentoo [5.116.0-r1:5/5.116::gentoo] USE="-bluetooth -debug -test -webengine% (-kaccounts%) (-kf6compat%)" 171 KiB
[ebuild N ] kde-frameworks/kcmutils-6.5.0:6/6.5::gentoo USE="-debug -doc -test" 2,406 KiB
[ebuild N ] kde-plasma/libplasma-6.1.4:6::gentoo USE="-debug -doc -gles2-only -test" 2,068 KiB
[ebuild NS ] kde-apps/kdenlive-24.05.2:6::gentoo [23.08.5:5::gentoo] USE="handbook v4l -debug -designer -doc -gles2-only -semantic-desktop -test" 12,609 KiB
[uninstall ] kde-apps/kdenlive-23.08.5:5::gentoo USE="handbook v4l -debug -designer -doc -gles2-only -semantic-desktop -test"
[blocks b ] kde-apps/kdenlive:5 ("kde-apps/kdenlive:5" is soft blocking kde-apps/kdenlive-24.05.2)
[ebuild NS ] kde-plasma/polkit-kde-agent-6.1.4:6::gentoo [5.27.11:5::gentoo] USE="-debug" 56 KiB
[uninstall ] kde-plasma/polkit-kde-agent-5.27.11:5::gentoo USE="-debug"
[blocks b ] kde-plasma/polkit-kde-agent:5 ("kde-plasma/polkit-kde-agent:5" is soft blocking kde-plasma/polkit-kde-agent-6.1.4)
Total: 56 packages (1 upgrade, 9 new, 43 in new slots, 3 reinstalls, 6 uninstalls), Size of downloads: 79,886 KiB
Conflict: 6 blocks (all satisfied)
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
x11-libs/gtk+:3
(x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.41-r1:3/3::gentoo, installed) USE="X cups introspection vim-syntax (-aqua) -broadway -cloudproviders -colord -examples -gtk-doc -sysprof -test -wayland -xinerama" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" pulled in by
>=x11-libs/gtk+-3.10.0:3[introspection,wayland=] required by (gnome-extra/nemo-6.0.2:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="exif nls -gtk-doc (-selinux) -test -tracker -wayland -xmp" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_12 -python3_10 -python3_11"
^^^^^^^^
(x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.41-r1:3/3::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) USE="X cups introspection vim-syntax wayland (-aqua) -broadway -cloudproviders -colord -examples -gtk-doc -sysprof -test -xinerama" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" pulled in by
>=x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.41-r1:3[X?,wayland?] required by (dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4:6/6.7.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) USE="X concurrent cups dbus gtk gui icu libinput libproxy mysql network nls opengl sql sqlite ssl syslog tslib udev vulkan wayland widgets xml (zstd) -accessibility -brotli -eglfs -evdev -gles2-only -gssapi -journald -oci8 -odbc -postgres -renderdoc -sctp -test" ABI_X86="(64)"
^^^^^^^^
It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a conflict exists in
the dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can
not be installed simultaneously.
For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man
page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
(see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by kde-frameworks/kauth-6.5.0::gentoo[policykit]
# required by kde-frameworks/kio-6.5.0::gentoo
# required by kde-frameworks/kcmutils-6.5.0::gentoo
# required by kde-plasma/libplasma-6.1.4::gentoo
# required by kde-plasma/polkit-kde-agent-6.1.4::gentoo
>=kde-frameworks/kwindowsystem-6.5.0 wayland
# required by dev-qt/qtwayland-6.7.2-r3::gentoo
# required by kde-plasma/libplasma-6.1.4::gentoo
# required by kde-plasma/polkit-kde-agent-6.1.4::gentoo
# required by kde-frameworks/kauth-6.5.0::gentoo[policykit]
# required by kde-frameworks/kio-6.5.0::gentoo
# required by kde-frameworks/kcmutils-6.5.0::gentoo
>=dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4 wayland
# required by dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4::gentoo[widgets,gtk,gui]
# required by kde-frameworks/prison-6.5.0::gentoo
# required by kde-frameworks/purpose-6.5.0-r1::gentoo
# required by kde-apps/kdenlive-24.05.2::gentoo
# required by @selected
# required by @world (argument)
>=x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.41-r1 wayland
# required by x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.41-r1::gentoo[wayland]
# required by dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4::gentoo[widgets,gtk,gui]
# required by kde-frameworks/prison-6.5.0::gentoo
# required by kde-frameworks/purpose-6.5.0-r1::gentoo
# required by kde-apps/kdenlive-24.05.2::gentoo
# required by @selected
# required by @world (argument)
>=media-libs/mesa-24.1.6 wayland
Would you like to add these changes to your config files? [Yes/No] NO
* In order to avoid wasting time, backtracking has terminated early
* due to the above autounmask change(s). The --autounmask-backtrack=y
* option can be used to force further backtracking, but there is no
* guarantee that it will produce a solution.
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=dev-qt/qtbase-6.6.2:6[gui,wayland?]" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- dev-qt/qtbase-6.9999::gentoo (masked by: missing keyword)
- dev-qt/qtbase-6.8.9999::gentoo (masked by: missing keyword)
- dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.9999::gentoo (masked by: missing keyword)
- dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4::gentoo (masked by: )
(dependency required by "kde-frameworks/kwindowsystem-6.5.0::gentoo" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-frameworks/kauth-6.5.0::gentoo[policykit]" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-frameworks/kio-6.5.0::gentoo" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-frameworks/kcmutils-6.5.0::gentoo" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-plasma/libplasma-6.1.4::gentoo" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-plasma/polkit-kde-agent-6.1.4::gentoo" [ebuild])
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
(typhoon:/etc/portage) user%
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Is it still possible to use any applications from the KDE ecosystem without wayland? Or am I stuck with either pinning things to the last supported versions or finding non-KDE family alternatives?
Emerge info:
| Code: | (typhoon:/etc/portage) user% emerge --info
Portage 3.0.65 (python 3.12.3-final-0, default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/desktop, gcc-13, glibc-2.39-r6, 6.10.0-gentoo x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-6.10.0-gentoo-x86_64-AMD_Ryzen_7_5800X3D_8-Core_Processor-with-glibc2.39
KiB Mem: 32779208 total, 10221708 free
KiB Swap: 67108860 total, 67103996 free
Timestamp of repository gentoo: Mon, 02 Sep 2024 02:30:01 +0000
Head commit of repository gentoo: b460063c95b80b12995897ecb972d1f03689129f
Timestamp of repository palemoon: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 06:22:16 +0000
Head commit of repository palemoon: d48a2d34cc7d8b2422f08b2aa3b2c127cdf602d4
Timestamp of repository pentoo: Sun, 01 Sep 2024 11:19:05 +0000
Head commit of repository pentoo: 8784ce6d971786fa366f59bbc61daba6c7fb87dc
Timestamp of repository vowstar: Sun, 01 Sep 2024 10:04:17 +0000
Head commit of repository vowstar: 6f9904ba82f8996f9d908a0c2f2639df80db358b
Timestamp of repository xwing: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:03:58 +0000
Head commit of repository xwing: f6983d1093784696a9736a3531c148156d24e7a6
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sys-libs/glibc: 2.39-r6::gentoo
Repositories:
gentoo
location: /var/db/repos/gentoo
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sync-uri: rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
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sync-rsync-verify-max-age: 24
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sync-rsync-extra-opts:
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JTN-local-overlay-stuff
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masters: gentoo
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volatile: True
palemoon
location: /var/db/repos/palemoon
sync-type: git
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masters: gentoo
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pentoo
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vowstar
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masters: gentoo
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xwing
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sync-type: git
sync-uri: https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/xwing.git
masters: gentoo
volatile: False
Installed sets: @steam
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CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
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PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --omit-dir-times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --exclude=/.git"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
SHELL="/bin/tcsh"
USE="3dnow X a52 aac aalib acl acpi aes alsa amd64 amr avahi avx bluetooth branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddax cddb cdio cdr cet cifsupcall cleartype corefonts crypt cups curl custom-cflags db dbus dri dts dvb dvd dvdr elogind encode esd exif extras ffmpeg flac fluidsynth fontconfig ftp gcrypt gd gdbm gif gimp gnutls gphoto2 gsm gtk gtk2 gtk3 gui iconv icu id3tag imap ipv6 jack java javascipt joystick jpeg keyboard kf6compat lcms libass libnotify libsysfs libtirpc lirc live lm_sensors mad matroska mmx mmxext mng mod modplug mouse mp3 mp4 mpeg multilib mysql nas ncurses network nis nls nsplugin ntfs nvidia ogg openal opengl openmp optimisememory osmesa oss pam pango parport pavucontrol pavumeter pcre pdf pdo perl png policykit popcnt posix ppds pulseaudio pvr python qt-dbus qt3 qt4 qt5 qt6 raster rdesktop readline remoteosd rtsp s3tc samba scp screen sdl seccomp sound source spell split-usr sqlite sqlite3 sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssl ssse3 startup-notification stream svg symlink syslog taglib test-rust theora threads tiff truetype tslib type1 udev udisks unicode upower usb v4l v4l2 vaapi valgrind vdpau vim vim-syntax vnc vorbis vpx vulkan wxwidgets x264 xattr xcb xcomposite xfce xfconf xft xml xv xvid zeroconf zlib" ABI_X86="64" ADA_TARGET="gcc_12" APACHE2_MODULES="authn_core authz_core socache_shmcb unixd actions alias auth_basic authn_anon authn_dbm authn_file authz_dbm authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CALLIGRA_FEATURES="karbon sheets words" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" CPU_FLAGS_X86="aes avx avx2 f16c fma3 mmx mmxext pclmul popcnt rdrand sha sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3" ELIBC="glibc" GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock greis isync itrax mtk3301 ntrip navcom oceanserver oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf skytraq superstar2 tsip tripmate tnt ublox" GUILE_SINGLE_TARGET="3-0" GUILE_TARGETS="3-0" INPUT_DEVICES="libinput" KERNEL="linux" L10N="en_US en" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb text" LUA_SINGLE_TARGET="lua5-1" LUA_TARGETS="lua5-1" OFFICE_IMPLEMENTATION="libreoffice" PHP_TARGETS="php8-2" POSTGRES_TARGETS="postgres15" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_12" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_12" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby31 ruby32" SANE_BACKENDS="plustek pixma net" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tarpit sysrq proto logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account"
Unset: ADDR2LINE, AR, ARFLAGS, AS, ASFLAGS, CC, CCLD, CONFIG_SHELL, CPP, CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, CXX, CXXFILT, ELFEDIT, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, EXTRA_ECONF, F77FLAGS, FC, GCOV, GPROF, LC_ALL, LD, LFLAGS, LIBTOOL, LINGUAS, MAKE, MAKEFLAGS, NM, OBJCOPY, OBJDUMP, PORTAGE_BINHOST, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PYTHONPATH, RANLIB, READELF, RUSTFLAGS, SIZE, STRINGS, STRIP, YACC, YFLAGS
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sam_
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| Building in support for Wayland doesn't mean you have to use it. Some software unconditionally uses Wayland interfaces even if they aren't taken at runtime. KDE Plasma and KDE Gear still support X, but you might have to build some libraries with Wayland support. |
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smilr
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| sam_ wrote: | | Some software unconditionally uses Wayland interfaces even if they aren't taken at runtime. |
Ah. Then I will have to find alternatives to 'Some software' as I won't accept a buildtime, much less runtime, dependency on Wayland in any form. |
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asturm
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| There is nothing Wayland at "runtime" just in case you are making the mistake of thinking of it like X11. |
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sam_
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| smilr wrote: | | sam_ wrote: | | Some software unconditionally uses Wayland interfaces even if they aren't taken at runtime. |
Ah. Then I will have to find alternatives to 'Some software' as I won't accept a buildtime, much less runtime, dependency on Wayland in any form. |
I meant that the Wayland libraries may be used and the support may exist in the binary but it doesn't have to be used. So, when you open it on an X session, nothing Wayland happens. It's just that the libraries are needed to build against. |
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smilr
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| sam_ wrote: | | smilr wrote: | | sam_ wrote: | | Some software unconditionally uses Wayland interfaces even if they aren't taken at runtime. |
Ah. Then I will have to find alternatives to 'Some software' as I won't accept a buildtime, much less runtime, dependency on Wayland in any form. |
I meant that the Wayland libraries may be used and the support may exist in the binary but it doesn't have to be used. So, when you open it on an X session, nothing Wayland happens. It's just that the libraries are needed to build against. |
Yes, I understand that building wayland specific code into libraries and executables doesn't necessarily mean any of that code will ever actually run in a pure X11 environment.
I simply don't wish for that code to be compiled in the first place, if at all avoidable. I acknowledge that in the long run this will be unsustainable as programs I currently use may chose to hard-depend on wayland in the future. With portage I can just disable the wayland use flag and portage will will either compile packages with a minimum of wayland specific code included, or refuse to compile them for me due to use conflicts.
On a brighter (perhaps stupider) note I've found a workaround for the only thing actually trying to force wayland on me: kde-frameworks/kauth expects kwindowsystem to be built with +wayland if kauth has +policykit. For now I can disable policykit on kauth and live with whatever fallout that change brings in order to avoid +wayland anywhere. |
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lars_the_bear
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| sam_ wrote: |
I meant that the Wayland libraries may be used and the support may exist in the binary but it doesn't have to be used. So, when you open it on an X session, nothing Wayland happens. It's just that the libraries are needed to build against. |
I'm in a similar position to the OP.
If I allow wayland support for the specific package that is asking for it, can I be certain that it won't have unpredictable side-effects? I don't have any wayland libraries installed so, presumably, these would need to be included in the update. Can I be sure that won't change any system configuration?
I got bitten by this problem when I tried to allow USE=pulseaudio on a specific package, in a system that does not use Pulse. The result was pretty messy.
BR, Lars. |
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asturm
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| lars_the_bear wrote: | | If I allow wayland support for the specific package that is asking for it, can I be certain that it won't have unpredictable side-effects? I don't have any wayland libraries installed so, presumably, these would need to be included in the update. Can I be sure that won't change any system configuration? |
For the 1000th time, no there are no side-effects. |
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sam_
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| Not least because that's how every other distro builds stuff anyway. If anything, it's the odd case to turn it off in terms of raw numbers. |
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dmpogo
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On that note, I am running KDE, but under X, with no plans to change, and currently on my test setup I am just studying what I can trim from KDE6, which had installed a bit more than KDE5 had.
My current question is that to my understanding I do not need gui-apps/xwaylandvideobridge which is controlled by xwayland keyword for plasma-meta. Keyword description in plasma-meta says it is just for this bridge, but is it so, can I disable it with no other effects ?
BTW, it is not that I am particularly touchy about xwaylandvideobridge, it is just I am trying to understand the need for pipewire (originally my system was pure alsa, no pulseaudio, and I do not need screencast under KDE) |
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finoderi
Tux's lil' helper
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| KDE devs use pipewire to show window miniatures on the taskbar on wayland. And since wayland is the default now, everyone should enjoy it. |
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