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davidbryant
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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:11 pm Post subject: What happened to keyboard shortcuts? [SOLVED] |
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Since the upgrade to qt6, none of the keyboard shortcuts are working. Why?
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Chiitoo
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| Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Which desktop environment and window manager are you using?
With LXQt and KWin for example, '/usr/libexec/kglobalacceld' will no longer be automagically started, which KWin uses for global shortcuts.
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davidbryant
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Chiitoo wrote: | Which desktop environment and window manager are you using?
With LXQt and KWin for example, '/usr/libexec/kglobalacceld' will no longer be automagically started, which KWin uses for global shortcuts. |
Thanks for the hint. I'm running the KDE desktop, with X11. I'll add that progran to autostart and see if it helps.
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davidbryant
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that didn't work. I tried adding /usr/libexec/kglobalacceld in system settings --> system --> autostart, and rebooted my system, but still no keyboard shortcuts. In fact, "kglobalacceld" does not appear to be running.
| Code: | david@localhost ~ $ ps aux | grep kglob*
david 2377 0.0 0.1 227556 24960 ? Sl 07:00 0:00 /home/david/kde/usr/bin/kglobalaccel5
david 4472 0.0 0.0 6556 2176 pts/1 S+ 07:11 0:00 grep --color=auto kglob* |
If I try to start it, it doesn't run.
| Code: | david@localhost ~ $ /usr/libexec/kglobalacceld
david@localhost ~ $ ps aux | grep kglob*
david 2377 0.0 0.1 227556 24960 ? Sl 07:00 0:00 /home/david/kde/usr/bin/kglobalaccel5
david 4944 0.0 0.0 6556 2176 pts/1 S+ 07:29 0:00 grep --color=auto kglob* |
What if I kill the kglobalaccel5 process? That might work.
| Code: | localhost ~ # kill 2377
david@localhost ~ $ /usr/libexec/kglobalacceld
(in a new tab)
david@localhost ~ $ ps aux | grep kglob*
david 5081 0.1 0.2 247848 34016 pts/1 Sl+ 07:34 0:00 /usr/libexec/kglobalacceld
david 5101 0.0 0.0 6556 2160 pts/3 S+ 07:35 0:00 grep --color=auto kglob* |
What do you know! Now my keyboard shortcuts are working. If I can just suppress kglobalaccel5 I may be in business. Thanks, Chiitoo.
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asturm
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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What's that?
| Code: | | /home/david/kde/usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 |
You're having a local KDE Frameworks build in use? |
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davidbryant
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| asturm wrote: | What's that?
| Code: | | /home/david/kde/usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 |
You're having a local KDE Frameworks build in use? |
Well, I'm not trying to use it. I played around with building some KDE apps from the KDE repos a while ago, but that stuff is only supposed to be used when I say "kdesrc-run". Or so I thought. I'll dig through the list of what's actually running just to be sure. To be safe, I changed my .bashrc file to leave the kde executables out of the PATH. But I don't understand how or why the boot process would be looking at my user .bashrc file.
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iandoug
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know if related, but ctrl-esc no longer brings up the process window here ....
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asturm
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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iandoug
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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What is Meta?
I tried all the keys along the bottom of the keyboard.
I have the left Win key set as Compose.
Thanks, Ian
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Win key = Meta key |
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iandoug
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| Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Are you saying that the decades-old shortcut of ctrl-esc has now been replaced with meta-esc?
Why on earth would they break userspace like that?
It reminds me of the KDE dev who decided to disable the leave menu on right-click on desktop because "you can use alt-ctrl-del"(which is what he does..)
Enough people complained.
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| asturm wrote: | | Win key = Meta key |
So I try to set ctrl+esc to launch system monitor like it has always done, but KDE says,
"Shortcut Ctrl+Esc is already assigned to the common File action 'Close'.
Do you want to reassign it?"
AFAIK, ctrl+w is Close File ... am I losing my mind or have default bindings been changed?
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davidbryant
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| Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| iandoug wrote: |
"Shortcut Ctrl+Esc is already assigned to the common File action 'Close'.
Do you want to reassign it?"
AFAIK, ctrl+w is Close File ... am I losing my mind or have default bindings been changed? |
You're not losing your mind. There are global shortcuts and local shortcuts. You can modify global shortcuts in the System Settings --> Keyboard --> Shortcuts dialog. Global shortcuts should work almost everywhere. For example, I use F12 to open a terminal window (Yakuake) whenever I need one.
Local shortcuts only work in individual programs. They have higher priority than global shortcuts. The only local shortcuts active at a point in time are the shortcuts associated with the active application, i.e., the window that has the cursor's focus. There is no easy way to reassign local shortcuts, except by changing the source code and recompiling / relinking the program.
Ctrl+w is the local shortcut for "close file" in many KDE apps (e.g., Okular, Kate). OTOH, some KDE programs do not have a "close file" function. For instance, in KMail, Ctrl+q is the "quit" command; it closes KMail, and removes the KMail icon from the system tray, if that icon is enaabled.
You shouldn't worry about warning messages when reassigning global shortcuts. You should feel free to tailor the shortcuts any way you like.
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