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KarlP
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:56 am    Post subject: [Solved] Does lxqt need kde-packages? Reply with quote

Hi forum members!

On my system I run lxqt on x11-wm/openbox.

Recently I had to change the profile from default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr to default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/desktop. (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1170861-start-0.html)
And during the emerge run a lot of kde packages were pulled in.

Now I wonder whether I really do need all these packages.

The "old" stuff:

Code:
2021-03-17T09:17:47 >>> kde-frameworks/extra-cmake-modules
2021-03-17T09:29:25 >>> kde-frameworks/kcoreaddons
2021-03-17T09:29:18 >>> kde-frameworks/kf-env
2021-03-17T09:42:29 >>> kde-frameworks/kwindowsystem
2021-03-17T10:11:04 >>> kde-frameworks/solid
2021-03-17T10:23:10 >>> kde-plasma/libkscreen
2023-02-06T00:50:30 >>> kde-frameworks/kconfig


The new packages:

Code:
2024-09-17T08:02:44 >>> kde-apps/kio-extras
2024-09-17T06:58:20 >>> kde-apps/libkexiv2
2024-09-17T02:18:34 >>> kde-frameworks/attica
2024-09-17T06:43:05 >>> kde-frameworks/breeze-icons
2024-09-17T07:26:03 >>> kde-frameworks/frameworkintegration
2024-09-17T02:20:01 >>> kde-frameworks/karchive
2024-09-17T04:49:21 >>> kde-frameworks/kauth
2024-09-17T07:23:27 >>> kde-frameworks/kbookmarks
2024-09-17T07:43:02 >>> kde-frameworks/kcmutils
2024-09-17T02:20:31 >>> kde-frameworks/kcodecs
2024-09-17T02:30:49 >>> kde-frameworks/kcompletion
2024-09-17T06:48:52 >>> kde-frameworks/kconfigwidgets
2024-09-17T02:23:17 >>> kde-frameworks/kcrash
2024-09-17T02:23:32 >>> kde-frameworks/kdbusaddons
2024-09-17T07:24:18 >>> kde-frameworks/kdeclarative
2024-09-17T02:28:36 >>> kde-frameworks/kded
2024-09-17T06:39:42 >>> kde-frameworks/kdnssd
2024-09-17T02:24:42 >>> kde-frameworks/kdoctools
2024-09-17T06:02:17 >>> kde-frameworks/kglobalaccel
2024-09-17T06:46:48 >>> kde-frameworks/kguiaddons
2024-09-17T02:24:00 >>> kde-frameworks/ki18n
2024-09-17T06:49:43 >>> kde-frameworks/kiconthemes
2024-09-17T06:24:02 >>> kde-frameworks/kidletime
2024-09-17T07:31:00 >>> kde-frameworks/kio
2024-09-17T02:25:11 >>> kde-frameworks/kirigami
2024-09-17T06:05:54 >>> kde-frameworks/kitemmodels
2024-09-17T02:26:33 >>> kde-frameworks/kitemviews
2024-09-17T02:31:15 >>> kde-frameworks/kjobwidgets
2024-09-17T07:18:43 >>> kde-frameworks/knewstuff
2024-09-17T02:46:27 >>> kde-frameworks/knotifications
2024-09-17T02:27:01 >>> kde-frameworks/kpackage
2024-09-17T07:53:10 >>> kde-frameworks/kparts
2024-09-17T07:22:40 >>> kde-frameworks/krunner
2024-09-17T02:27:31 >>> kde-frameworks/kservice
2024-09-17T06:57:49 >>> kde-frameworks/ktextwidgets
2024-09-17T07:15:04 >>> kde-frameworks/kwallet
2024-09-17T02:28:52 >>> kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons
2024-09-17T07:11:01 >>> kde-frameworks/kxmlgui
2024-09-17T03:53:22 >>> kde-frameworks/sonnet
2024-09-17T06:40:15 >>> kde-frameworks/syntax-highlighting
2024-09-17T08:20:14 >>> kde-plasma/breeze
2024-09-17T08:00:01 >>> kde-plasma/kde-cli-tools
2024-09-17T07:22:00 >>> kde-plasma/kdecoration
2024-09-17T08:25:35 >>> kde-plasma/kwin
2024-09-17T06:50:16 >>> kde-plasma/layer-shell-qt
2024-09-17T07:51:44 >>> kde-plasma/polkit-kde-agent
2024-09-17T07:58:51 >>> kde-plasma/systemsettings


Maybe one can --depclean some of these?

Thanks for your recommendation.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try playing with these USE flags to see if you can get some bloat to go away
Code:

[ebuild  N     ] lxqt-base/lxqt-meta-2.0.0::gentoo  USE="about archiver desktop-portal display-manager filemanager lximage nls policykit processviewer screenshot sddm sudo terminal trash window-manager -admin -powermanagement -ssh-askpass" 0 KiB
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[ebuild  N     ] lxqt-base/lxqt-panel-2.0.1::gentoo  USE="alsa desktopswitch directorymenu kbindicator mainmenu mount pulseaudio quicklaunch showdesktop spacer statusnotifier taskbar volume worldclock -colorpicker -cpuload -dom -lm-sensors -networkmonitor -sysstat -tray" 648 KiB


Anyway the "qt" in lxqt is what is pulling all these packages.
It seems lxqt is a mini kde.
Try using binary packages or move to another DE.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why the hate? These are general Qt extending libraries, no one needs to reinvent the wheel. And kwin is a superb window manager. You can still deselect it in lxqt-meta, as far as I know.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, can still use LXQt with 'x11-wm/openbox' or any other Window Manager of choice, it is just that I switched the meta default to 'kde-plasma/kwin' for 2.0.0 as it is what I use myself and therefore test the most while packaging LXQt, and it is what some of the LXQt developers use, and may even recommend, while they do not recommend 'x11-wm/openbox' any longer due to its dormant state of being.

So, if using a Window Manager that is not KWin is preferred, emerge 'lxqt-meta' with USE="-window-manager".

The only actual KDE dependencies that I remember without looking is 'kde-frameworks/kwindowsystem' and whatever that brings with it, which is not much.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:08 pm    Post subject: Does lxqt need kde-packages? Reply with quote

Sorry! I definitely didn't want to provoke some offense.

My intention was simply to stick with my old configuration. A habit which one could also call my laziness.

The way of emerge 'lxqt-meta' with USE="-window-manager" led to the removal of almost hundred packages.

So, why not follow the principle KISS?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is just as Chiitoo said, do you need more explanation?
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