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L1NTHALO
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:47 pm    Post subject: 6.11 Kernel missing a lot of options? Reply with quote

Currently configuring my kernel and there is a lot of stuff missing in gentoo-sources 6.11.

For one there is no "Enable the block layer" section and I wasn't able to find it anywhere else, Input devices got restructured and has a lot of stuff missing too and for some reason there is no firmware loader section?

Is this a bug or an intended feature? if it's intended, are these changes now built in by default? And how am I gonna load firmware blobs?

I built gentoo-sources with the experimental USE Flag.

Any help would be appreciated!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This prompt is hidden if CONFIG_EXPERT is off, but will still activate because of the default value. (This is not new either.)
Code:
menuconfig BLOCK
       bool "Enable the block layer" if EXPERT
       default y
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe have a look into: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Experimental/Manual_Configuring_Current_Kernel

Firmware loading facility (*) has not changed since ... a very long time ... I cannot remember ... do you you come from a very, very old kernel version ?

*) https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Tutorials/Manual_kernel_configuration#Driver_needs_Firmware
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, all of the options were hidden because CONFIG_EXPERT was disabled (although I'm pretty sure I didn't turn it off). Never had that problem before so I thought it was some change in 6.11. Thanks for the help!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to know, thank to this thread.
I had the same problem, coming from 6.10.10 to 6.11.0.
Always (for years) build the kernel with make oldconfig, though, just editing minor things now and then.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L1NTHALO wrote:
Yeah, all of the options were hidden because CONFIG_EXPERT was disabled (although I'm pretty sure I didn't turn it off). Never had that problem before so I thought it was some change in 6.11. Thanks for the help!


It looks like many options were moved behind the EXPERT tag which were not before. On my 5.15 kernel Enable Block Layer is prominently in the very top Menu level of menuconfig (forced on by something), not hidden anywhere.
And the only EXPERT term used is in "Configure standard kernel features (expert users)" which has a limited set of some very low-level options.

It seems there was a rather major restructuring of options in 6.x.x (haven't tried it yet) and perhaps it is still going on
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