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Princess Nell
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 Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:16 pm Post subject: Guile compile time |
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Surely this must be a new record - from ten to a hundred in a single release  Any idea what is going on here?
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2021-07-03T21:14:09 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 8′52″
2021-10-31T23:43:15 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 9′22″
2022-06-18T22:38:43 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 9′16″
2023-07-09T22:22:06 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 10′09″
2024-03-25T14:13:49 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 9′58″
2024-11-09T22:14:29 <<< dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 1s
2024-11-09T22:15:13 >>> dev-scheme/guile-3.0.10-r102: 1:42:18
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CaptainBlood
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Similar here, lowend desktop: | Code: | qlop -tv guile
2022-06-15T01:49:26 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 7′53″
2023-07-08T17:39:56 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 13′16″
2024-02-01T12:55:14 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 13s
2024-03-31T11:25:49 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 8′02″
2024-11-11T16:16:07 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r102: 7′56″
2024-11-11T16:24:03 >>> dev-scheme/guile-3.0.10-r102: 1:43:41
2024-11-11T18:07:44 <<< dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 4s
2024-11-11T18:16:50 <<< dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r102: 5s |
Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support.
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CaptainBlood
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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2.2.7 -> 3.0.0 seems a major jump in features.
Costly to build... 
Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support.
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stefantalpalaru
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:58 am Post subject: |
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It's not the new upstream version that is slower to build, but a specific Gentoo revision:
| Code: | 2024-03-23T09:14:09 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r1: 1′55″
2024-05-30T11:18:45 >>> dev-scheme/guile-2.2.7-r2: 2′08″
2024-09-28T21:38:12 >>> dev-scheme/guile-3.0.10-r100: 6′14″
2024-10-11T19:55:03 >>> dev-scheme/guile-3.0.10-r101: 6′28″
2024-10-18T18:10:02 >>> dev-scheme/guile-3.0.10-r102: 31′00″
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Gentoo commit responsible.
The problem here is the wrong usage of Make conditionals in an Automake file, in "guile-3.0-fix-32bit-BE.patch", leading to "GUILE_OPTIMIZATIONS" no longer being set to "-O1" and being set later to "-O2" which slows stage0 a lot, for no benefit whatsoever.
The solution is to generate the simple, boolean conditional var that Automake can handle, in "configure.ac" and use it with a plain "if" in "Makefile.am". Now you know why they banned my account on bugs.gentoo.org
[Administrator edit: removed bogus link[1] for the text my account, since it does not lead to anything about the account, and instead merely lists out all bugs related to the account. Additionally, as noted in the report thread, this search is needlessly expensive, so I would prefer it not be run by readers who are idly curious about the link.
[1]: <https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=IN_PROGRESS&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&email1=stefantalpalaru
&emaillongdesc1=1&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=substring&query_format=advanced&resolution=FIXED&resolution=INVALID&resolution=WONTFIX
&resolution=LATER&resolution=REMIND&resolution=DUPLICATE&resolution=WORKSFORME&resolution=CANTFIX&resolution=NEEDINFO
&resolution=TEST-REQUEST&resolution=UPSTREAM&resolution=OBSOLETE&resolution=PKGREMOVED>
-Hu] |
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sam_
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| Fixed, thanks, with some nuance in the commit message about Guile. |
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stefantalpalaru
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| sam_ wrote: | | Fixed, thanks |
You're welcome, but I'm afraid I have to report your post for being a spammy comment which only serves to advertise your fix.  |
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CaptainBlood
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | | 2024-11-13T12:30:07 >>> dev-scheme/guile-3.0.10-r102: 31′53″ |
is much faster indeed.
Plz note the following issue:
| Code: | quickpkg --include-config y --umask 0072 guile
* Building package for dev-scheme/guile-3.0.10-r102 ... * Missing file from local system: "/usr/share/guile-data/3.0/info/dir.lzma"
[ ok ]
* Packages now in '/var/cache/binpkgs':
* dev-scheme/guile-3.0.10-r102: 7.6M |
| Code: | ls /usr/share/guile-data/3.0/info
dir guile-3.0.info-7.lzma guile.info-4.lzma
guile-3.0.info-10.lzma guile-3.0.info-8.lzma guile.info-5.lzma
guile-3.0.info-11.lzma guile-3.0.info-9.lzma guile.info-6.lzma
guile-3.0.info-1.lzma guile-3.0.info.lzma guile.info-7.lzma
guile-3.0.info-2.lzma guile.info-10.lzma guile.info-8.lzma
guile-3.0.info-3.lzma guile.info-11.lzma guile.info-9.lzma
guile-3.0.info-4.lzma guile.info-1.lzma guile.info.lzma
guile-3.0.info-5.lzma guile.info-2.lzma r5rs-3.0.info.lzma
guile-3.0.info-6.lzma guile.info-3.lzma r5rs.info.lzma |
| Code: | cat /usr/share/guile-data/3.0/info/dir
This is the file .../info/dir, which contains the
topmost node of the Info hierarchy, called (dir)Top.
The first time you invoke Info you start off looking at this node.
File: dir, Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree
This (the Directory node) gives a menu of major topics.
Typing "q" exits, "H" lists all Info commands, "d" returns here,
"h" gives a primer for first-timers,
"mEmacs<Return>" visits the Emacs manual, etc.
In Emacs, you can click mouse button 2 on a menu item or cross reference
to select it.
* Menu:
The Algorithmic Language Scheme
* Guile Reference: (guile). The Guile reference manual.
* R5RS: (r5rs). The Revised(5) Report on Scheme. |
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stefantalpalaru
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Hu wrote: | | [Administrator edit: removed bogus link[1] for the text my account, since it does not lead to anything about the account, and instead merely lists out all bugs related to the account. Additionally, as noted in the report thread, this search is needlessly expensive, so I would prefer it not be run by readers who are idly curious about the link. |
You non-programmers are hilarious. That link shows all the bug reports to which I contributed in some form, because the reason for my absurd ban on bugs.gentoo.org must be in there, somewhere. It's quite relevant and no, the search is not "expensive" at all.
Anyway, it's fascinating that you look at a long URL with parameters you cannot possibly comprehend and immediately jump to the conclusion it must be malicious and harmful to that magical server running software from 20 years ago in a way no remaining sysadmin can understand. It's OK to not be technologically inclined, but it's still baffling that you people end up administering and moderating a Gentoo forum, of all things. I understand that the original people brought friends into the fold and then went away, so competency was lost in a few iterations, but still... |
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szatox
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Dude, there's a difference between being funny, edgy, and just plainly an ass. Knock it off already, you're not making a case and you're not fooling anyone.
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pietinger
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| stefantalpalaru wrote: | | You non-programmers are hilarious.[...] |
You are talking to one of the most capable programmers!
| stefantalpalaru wrote: | | [...] It's OK to not be technologically inclined, but it's still baffling that you people end up administering and moderating a Gentoo forum, of all things. I understand that the original people brought friends into the fold and then went away, so competency was lost in a few iterations, but still... |
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Read this: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8846025.html#8846025
... and decide if you want to be banned here too. Another post like this and you've wasted your second chance.
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stefantalpalaru
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| pietinger wrote: | | Another post like this and you've wasted your second chance. |
Like my grandpa Schicklgruber used to say, right before banning his jolly friend Ernst Röhm, abusers don't need to come up with explanations for why they abuse their victims. No need for self-aggrandising narratives to frame the abuser as noble, wise and even pained by what he is forced to do to his lowly victim. Abuse is the way of the world. The big fish bans the small fish, because might makes right. Sic mundus creatus est - at least since the competency crisis.
Ours not to make reply, ours not to reason why, ours but to do and be banned. |
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pietinger
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Locked for 24 hours to let everyone calm down.
--- Edit ---
and unlocked after everyone had a good sleep.
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Zucca
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| Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:45 am Post subject: |
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I see... After getting banned from bugzilla, now's the time to stir up the forums.
After this topic gets unlocked let's get back to the topic... if there's anything to discuss any further.
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