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| szatox wrote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | | Also be aware that ssh X forwarding still requires an X server on the end where the application is supposed to be displayed. |
So I guess this functionality isn't in Xwayland? |
I guess it refers the fact that X works kinda backwards. It makes sense once you think about it, but it is completely counter-intuitive.
In human terms your thin terminal is a client, because you use it to connect to control a remote machine (the application server). This is what we're used to thinking.
In X11 terms this thin terminal runs the server and the remote application is the client. The remote application connects to your thin terminal and controls pixels on the screen.
It's not about whether wayland can do it or not, it's about where the relevant pieces in X-world are. |
And for many tasks (and I think that conceptually all) it makes sense to have displaying part (X server in X11 model) to run on the machine where display is, and were you can utilize hardware properties, rather than render bitmaps on the end where display hardware is unknown.
When I do 3D visualization, and then rotate 3D cube under X11, it is done basically in GPU and is fast. Over vnc type connections it is an unusable pain.
Over the years, there was come and go what works faster - X11 model or vnc/remote desktop, depending on heaviness of the graphity cs versus speed of connection.
Through the 90-s in my university with 100 Mb ethernet connections, and relatively simple desktop/visualization X11 model was fantastic. I did not pay attention at what machine
I am running my desktop today.
in 2000-s, with relatively slow 1-3 Mbit home connections and appearing of more demanding graphics, from home it was more vnc. Then once in 2010 we were trying to visualize data from our French server while sititng in UK, and it was all frozen under vnc, until we just did X display forwarding and suddently could rotate 3D cubes in real time. Currently I have enough fast internet at home so that I do not need vnc for my needs from office. |
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