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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:06 pm    Post subject: Wayland applications Reply with quote

Starting this thread to keep mentions of wayland apps, replacement for X apps, etc from being interspersed throughout various other threads.

It's not designed to debate X vs wayland, or whine because wayland might not have a particular point for one to try wayland.
That's already been beat to death in other threads.

2 resources that I start with:
https://github.com/natpen/awesome-wayland -- older slightly outdated, but interesting older links
https://github.com/rcalixte/awesome-wayland -- fork of above, updated, and older links removed
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lars, https://github.com/cage-kiosk/cage seems to be updated, though I think it mostly feature complete, so I don't expect a lot of heavy development.
Not sure about startup time or memory usage.

wiki at https://github.com/cage-kiosk/cage/wiki
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run labwc (an openbox inspired compositor)

with
foot for terminal
fnott for notification daemon
fuzzel for dmenu style replacement
swaybg for wallpaper with perl script for periodic changing
kanshi for monitor placement handling
waybar for a tint2 replacement
along with a host of smaller wayland programs, logout, screen locking, clipboard managers, etc.

firefox and thunderbird are straight wayland.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anon-E-moose wrote:
Lars, https://github.com/cage-kiosk/cage seems to be updated, though I think it mostly feature complete, so I don't expect a lot of heavy development.
Not sure about startup time or memory usage.


Thanks. For the record, on my system Cage uses about 70M RAM, and starts up instantly. It certainly has some oddities, though, compared to something like Matchbox.

The weirdest (so far) is that if an application raises a dialog box with size hints, the size is respected, but the dialog window is aligned with the top left corner, leaving the parent window partially visible. The dialog has decorations that look like it should be possible to move or resize it, but it isn't. To be fair, this limitation is documented. But it is possible to move the input focus to the window that is only partially obscured by the dialog box, and interact with it, even though you might not be able to see what you're doing. It's decidedly odd that you can't raise a window that you can input into.

I guess Cage would work fine with an application that is really single-window. I think you'd probably need to be writing applications specifically for it. I mean, you can run a regular Wayland-compliant application with it, but the handling of dialogs is really off-putting. Still, it's nice to see that it exists, and it works better than I expected.

BR, Lars.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many times I've found the developers to be open to questions and potential additions/changes. Don't be afraid to ask, worse case they say no.
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