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CaptainBlood
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 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 6:08 am Post subject: libtool vs slibtool? |
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To my understanding Wiki suggests slibtool should be favored.
It clearly states how 2 do it, in a fine-grained way.
But it doesn't say anything how beneficial ir is... 
Any experience 2 share in this respect?
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bstaletic
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| Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:04 am Post subject: Re: libtool vs slibtool? |
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| CaptainBlood wrote: | | To my understanding Wiki suggests slibtool should be favored. |
I don't see the page expressing favoritism towards slibtool. It even has a link to the bug tracker about things failing to build with slibtool.
Are you expecting to gain anything if you switch? To me libtool is just a think that exists and is sometimes noticeable in the build output. |
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CaptainBlood
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| Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| bstaletic wrote: | | I don't see the page expressing favoritism towards slibtool. It even has a link to the bug tracker about things failing to build with slibtool. |
Assuming I'm wrong on that point  , the question remains... | CaptainBlood wrote: | | But it doesn't say anything how beneficial ir is... |
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bstaletic
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True. As I see it, it is a stricter implementation, which is a double-edged blade. If you use it to build your own software you can be sure the build system is not just being nice to you.
For end users, like us... meh... libtool works, so why fuss over it? |
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I tripped over this thread and went hunting for the "obvious" Rust implementation, but sadly that doesn't exist!
Aside: while searching, I came across this libtool guide written by Diego Pettenò, a respected name in Gentoo circles. I pass it on in case it's of interest.
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CaptainBlood
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| Goverp wrote: | I tripped over this thread and went hunting for the "obvious" Rust implementation, but sadly that doesn't exist!
Aside: while searching, I came across this libtool guide written by Diego Pettenò, a respected name in Gentoo circles. I pass it on in case it's of interest. |
So much respected here... I miss him.
Opensuse POV mentions possible speed gain.
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CaptainBlood
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Here | Code: | equery --quiet d autoconf 2>/dev/null|wc -l
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The number of packages which build could be speed up.
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CaptainBlood
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| Code: | 2024-12-11T02:14:59 >>> dev-lang/python-3.13.1: 12′58″
2024-12-11T02:47:39 >>> dev-lang/python-3.13.1: 11′24″ |
Unsure if latter line reported duration gain is due to slibtool, though.
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Haven't done exhaustive comparison, but a slibtool-rebuild of system showed this at first glance: | Code: | 2024-12-01T09:40:47 >>> net-analyzer/net-snmp-5.9.4-r1: 14 minutes, 5 seconds
2024-12-23T20:06:11 >>> net-analyzer/net-snmp-5.9.4-r1: 11 minutes, 30 seconds
2024-12-01T09:32:23 >>> sys-apps/man-db-2.13.0: 4 minutes, 31 seconds
2024-12-23T19:49:37 >>> sys-apps/man-db-2.13.0: 4 minutes, 35 seconds |
The latter of both being slibtool...
Also picked up a few ebuilds that doesn't build with slibtool though, currently | Code: | sys-devel/gcc libtool
=dev-libs/openssl-3.3.2-r2 libtool
=net-libs/gnutls-3.8.8 libtool
=dev-build/libtool-2.5.4 libtool
=dev-libs/ivykis-0.43.1 libtool
=app-misc/uptimed-0.4.6-r1 libtool |
(not quite finished with @world though) |
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