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RIA77
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:43 pm    Post subject: Clang profile, two llvm versions Reply with quote

Can I remove one LLVM ?
I have llvm 18 and 19.
I have been using stable Gentoo.

Code:
alculating dependencies... done!
  media-libs/mesa-24.2.6-r2 pulled in by:
    x11-base/xorg-server-21.1.14 requires >=media-libs/mesa-18[X(+),egl(+),gbm(+)]
    x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-22.0.0 requires media-libs/mesa


Can I remove 18 ?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try it and see. What is the output of emerge --ask --verbose --depclean sys-devel/llvm?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
  sys-devel/llvm-18.1.8-r1 pulled in by:
    @system requires sys-devel/llvm
    media-libs/mesa-24.2.6-r2 requires sys-devel/llvm:18[llvm_targets_AMDGPU(+),abi_x86_64(-)]
    sys-devel/llvm-toolchain-symlinks-18-r1 requires sys-devel/llvm:18

  sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4 pulled in by:
    @system requires sys-devel/llvm
    sys-devel/clang-19.1.4 requires ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4:19/19.1=[-debug,abi_x86_64(-)], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_Lanai], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_Sparc], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_BPF], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_AArch64], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_X86], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_MSP430], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_AVR], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_PowerPC], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_ARM], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4:19=[-debug,abi_x86_64(-)], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_SystemZ], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_NVPTX], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_VE], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_Hexagon], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_RISCV], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_LoongArch], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_XCore], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_WebAssembly], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_AMDGPU], ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[llvm_targets_Mips]
    sys-devel/lld-19.1.4 requires ~sys-devel/llvm-19.1.4[-debug,-zstd], sys-devel/llvm:19
    sys-devel/llvm-toolchain-symlinks-19 requires sys-devel/llvm:19
    sys-libs/compiler-rt-19.1.4 requires sys-devel/llvm:19
    sys-libs/libcxx-19.1.4 requires sys-devel/llvm:19
    sys-libs/libcxxabi-19.1.4 requires sys-devel/llvm:19
    sys-libs/llvm-libunwind-19.1.4 requires sys-devel/llvm:19
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIA77 wrote:
Can I remove 18 ?

No. Mesa specifically needs 18, at least for now:

RIA77 wrote:
Code:
media-libs/mesa-24.2.6-r2 requires sys-devel/llvm:18[llvm_targets_AMDGPU(+),abi_x86_64(-)]

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Clang profile, two llvm versions Reply with quote

RIA77 wrote:

Can I remove 18 ?


If emerge --depclean does not want to clean it, something holds on to it. GDH-Gentoo has already given you the answer to what it is.

You don't need to remove it, it won't do much for you. It won't even free significant amount of space and it doesn't run by itself, so you don't have a good reason to want to remove it until emerge --depclean decides so.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Clang profile, two llvm versions Reply with quote

logrusx wrote:
RIA77 wrote:

Can I remove 18 ?


If emerge --depclean does not want to clean it, something holds on to it. GDH-Gentoo has already given you the answer to what it is.

You don't need to remove it, it won't do much for you. It won't even free significant amount of space and it doesn't run by itself, so you don't have a good reason to want to remove it until emerge --depclean decides so.

Best Regards,
Georgi


But then you may be recompiling the version you do not use if it is updated, and clang with llvm is a non-trivial compilation. Recent introduction of 19 and update of 18 took my laptop few hours to deal with.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GDH-gentoo wrote:
RIA77 wrote:
Can I remove 18 ?

No. Mesa specifically needs 18, at least for now:

RIA77 wrote:
Code:
media-libs/mesa-24.2.6-r2 requires sys-devel/llvm:18[llvm_targets_AMDGPU(+),abi_x86_64(-)]



Also qttools it seems. Actually nothing needs 19 version :)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

media-libs/mesa (and intel_clc) works find with LLVM_SLOT=19. It's just the ebuids that are missing an update.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bstaletic wrote:
media-libs/mesa (and intel_clc) works find with LLVM_SLOT=19. It's just the ebuids that are missing an update.

If you're sure about that, file a bug.

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