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honeymak
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 Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:13 am Post subject: python version question |
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in my gentoo
there are three versions of python
py 3.11, py 3.12, py 3.13
last time i made my whole system to py 3.12 (steps according to eselect news)
so the future is 3.13, right? but when?
and can i remove py 3.11? or why emerge --depclean does not clean it out?
 
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There are probably some packages that are still using python3.11 and are only that version due to PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET or PYTHON_TARGETS. This could be due to that package not being checked or failed check on new python versions.
If there is nothing depending on python3.11 portage should be able to depclean it. I still have a machine with python3.9 through python3.13 ... ugh...
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oooooops...found that many X stuff depends on py 3.11
any driving force moving pkg to py 3.12? gentoo? gentoo devs?
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| honeymak wrote: | oooooops...found that many X stuff depends on py 3.11
any driving force moving pkg to py 3.12? gentoo? gentoo devs?
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double check (and remove) your package.use entries for stuff still telling things to use 3.11 . Gentoo devs are usually relatively quick to move things into new python versions; even now the QA tools like pkgcheck are reminding about upgrading to 3.13.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=921826&hide_resolved=1 here's the few Gentoo packages still having 3.12 issues
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honeymak
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i moved to py 3.12 last time eselect news said item from py 3.11 to 3.12
and double checked no py 3.11 target in my use (just ruby 3.1)
hmmm......
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| honeymak wrote: | i moved to py 3.12 last time eselect news said item from py 3.11 to 3.12
and double checked no py 3.11 target in my use (just ruby 3.1)
hmmm......
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emerge -avc dev-lang/python:3.11 will clearly say exactly what needs it ( equerry tends to be less accurate with optional dependencies) |
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| Phoenix591 wrote: | | honeymak wrote: | i moved to py 3.12 last time eselect news said item from py 3.11 to 3.12
and double checked no py 3.11 target in my use (just ruby 3.1)
hmmm......
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emerge -avc dev-lang/python:3.11 will clearly say exactly what needs it ( equerry tends to be less accurate with optional dependencies) |
thx for the sweeet emerge cmd...
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g64 /etc/portage/package.use # emerge -pavc dev-lang/python:3.11
Calculating dependencies... done!
dev-lang/python-3.11.11_p1 pulled in by:
games-puzzle/lightsoff-40.0.1 requires dev-lang/python:3.11
>>> No packages selected for removal by depclean
Packages installed: 1188
Packages in world: 40
Packages in system: 49
Required packages: 1188
Number to remove: 0
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OOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo.......
just put it here for your ref. ^_^
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If you can upgrade from games-puzzle/lightsoff-40.0.1 to lightsoff-46.0 (it's ~amd64 ~arm ~arm64 ~loong ~riscv ~x86) and there are no other packages that need python-3.11, then you could get rid of python-3.11.
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| eccerr0r wrote: | | I still have a machine with python3.9 through python3.13 ... ugh... |
Yep, I also carry pyhon from 3.9 onwards on my office machine because my students write code in python, and updating it with every new version is not their main priority |
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| dmpogo wrote: | | Yep, I also carry pyhon from 3.9 onwards on my office machine because my students write code in python, and updating it with every new version is not their main priority |
If they continue doing Python after their studies, maybe that is a good skill to develop after all 
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| eccerr0r wrote: | | If you can upgrade from games-puzzle/lightsoff-40.0.1 to lightsoff-46.0 (it's ~amd64 ~arm ~arm64 ~loong ~riscv ~x86) and there are no other packages that need python-3.11, then you could get rid of python-3.11. |
this worked......just wondering when gentoo will mark this pkg stable...
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| GDH-gentoo wrote: | | dmpogo wrote: | | Yep, I also carry pyhon from 3.9 onwards on my office machine because my students write code in python, and updating it with every new version is not their main priority |
If they continue doing Python after their studies, maybe that is a good skill to develop after all |
It is not, they better do research and write their thesis in astrophysics, rather than following python versions |
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