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g-virus
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 Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:39 pm Post subject: Switching to modern Wayland, is it worth? |
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Hey folks
I remember I had a discussion about migrating to Wayland a time ago, but things could be changed since, so I'm wondering if it's worth to switch to Wayland nowadays with the following preferences:
1. I'm going to use NVIDIA graphics card
2. I'm gonna use Sway or similar tiling window manager, no pure KDE/Gnome DE
3. I'm using no-multilib gentoo profile
4. I'd like to avoid X-only apps and keep the system minimal, but still usable as a daily computer
I have a laptop with Intel-only graphics and I use Arch on it with configured Sway/Waybar and other things, looks very usable, but there is no NVIDIA card/G-Sync.
So the question is: can I use Wayland-only environment with no-multilib gentoo profile, as well as with the NVIDIA card, and would you recommend to switch to Wayland to use a technology, that will potentially replace Xorg soon?
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Zucca
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| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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There has been a lot of discussion about this.
I'd say try it out, if it doesn't work then revert back.
I, myself, have been using wayland (first sway then wayfire) for some years already. Your mileage may wary.
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Anon-E-moose
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| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Switching to modern Wayland, is it worth? |
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| g-virus wrote: | | So the question is: can I use Wayland-only environment with no-multilib gentoo profile, as well as with the NVIDIA card, and would you recommend to switch to Wayland to use a technology, that will potentially replace Xorg soon? |
And the answer is "it depends"
no multilib is fine
same with sway and wayland
you don't need X unless you're wanting to run X apps by way of Xwayland
Nvidia, that depends on which card and drivers you have.
I've been running straight wayland for a few years now, without X (not even libs) on a non multilib system, though I'm an amdgpu user.
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g-virus
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| Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Switching to modern Wayland, is it worth? |
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| Anon-E-moose wrote: | | Nvidia, that depends on which card and drivers you have. |
I have rtx 3070ti, and I'd like to use proprietary drivers if it's possible. I'm just wondering of how different reviews about Wayland are, even now: some people say it isn't ok with Nvidia, others say it's ok, some people complain about broken screen capture/sharing, others tell that there is no problem with it.
I personally use sway on my laptop, and I can't notice any problem, but it doesn't have a discrete graphics card, while my desktop does and of course I'd like to utilize the hardware I actually have (I'm already suffering the lack of proper Razer support  )
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Reviews (especially nvidia/wayland ones) the more current the better chance of it being true.
It's only been in the last year or so that nvidia has gotten serious with wayland support in their drivers.
The latest if preferable, though if I was an nvidia user I'd check the nvidia linux forum for any problems.
The only advice that I can give you is to try it, you can have both X and wayland installed at the same time.
You just start one or the other, that's how I started using wayland, then when I was comfortable that wayland worked (for me) I removed all X stuff.
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