| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
jesnow
l33t
Joined: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 892
|
 Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:31 pm Post subject: pcmanfm-qt depends on kde wayland opengl?? say it ain't so! |
 |
|
Our favorite light file manager seems to have some new heavy dependencies on kde plasma:
| Code: |
DEPEND="
dev-libs/glib:2
>=dev-qt/qtbase-6.6:6[dbus,gui,widgets]
>=kde-plasma/layer-shell-qt-6.0:6
sys-apps/util-linux
virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme
=x11-libs/libfm-qt-${MY_PV}*:=
x11-libs/libxcb:=
x11-misc/xdg-utils
"
|
Is that for real? Doesn't seem right. It pulls in plasma wayland and opengl. I don't really want any of that.
Trying some alternatives now.
Cheers,
Jon. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Hu
Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2007
Posts: 23053
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| If you think the dependencies are wrong, then either (a) consult the git history to see why they were added, and review whether those reasons are valid or (b) force Portage to try to install it without those dependencies, and see whether it works. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jesnow
l33t
Joined: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 892
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yes, did that. Bottom line seems to be that pcmanfm-qt now hard depends on layer-shell-qt to be able to manage the desktop under wayland
I don't know what will happen if I try to prevent layer-shell-qt from being built, but from their CMakeLists.txt, it looks like it won't build, and if I did manage to make it build it would break.
| Code: | | find_package(LayerShellQt ${SHELLQT_MINIMUM_VERSION} REQUIRED) |
Maybe nobody has noticed or cares that this prevents it from being built for X or to use headless (what I want to do).
I guess it's just part of wayland taking over the universe. Because of course. X is EOL, and the headless use case isn't important. All of the infrastructure that allowed what I usually use pcmanfm-qt for is destined for the scrapheap anyway, that just seems to have come sooner rather than later.
I think I can just do it their way and have wayland and opengl just to run a headless app. OK, disk space is free these days. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hu
Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2007
Posts: 23053
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| If the upstream code has a hard dependency on Wayland now, then that is something you should discuss with upstream. Gentoo set the DEPEND relation so that you cannot accidentally try to build a configuration that the Gentoo maintainers already know will fail. I am not familiar with this package, so I have no insight into how readily, if at all, you could talk upstream into making this optional. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
asturm
Developer
Joined: 05 Apr 2007
Posts: 9334
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It was discussed between upstream and the downstream maintainer, no need to bother them again - it is what it is.
| Code: | $ equery s kde-plasma/layer-shell-qt
* kde-plasma/layer-shell-qt-6.2.91
Total files : 49
Total size : 4.90 MiB |
That's not Plasma, just a library. It doesn't have any further Plasma dependencies either.
Don't obsess over Wayland, etc. but you've probably heard that before and didn't bother anyway.
| jesnow wrote: | | Maybe nobody has noticed or cares that this prevents it from being built for X |
That's, err, completely wrong? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GDH-gentoo
Veteran
Joined: 20 Jul 2019
Posts: 1797
Location: South America
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
In other words:
| jesnow wrote: | | Maybe nobody has noticed or cares that this prevents it from being built for X or to use headless (what I want to do). |
Why "prevents"? Have you actually tried ro run this version of PCManFM-Qt on X11?
_________________
| NeddySeagoon wrote: | I'm not a witch, I'm a retired electronics engineer  |
| Ionen wrote: | | As a packager I just don't want things to get messier with weird build systems and multiple toolchains requirements though |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jesnow
l33t
Joined: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 892
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| GDH-gentoo wrote: | In other words:
| jesnow wrote: | | Maybe nobody has noticed or cares that this prevents it from being built for X or to use headless (what I want to do). |
Why "prevents"? Have you actually tried ro run this version of PCManFM-Qt on X11? |
Of course I have, it runs fine as long as you also install wayland. It's just a little much for me, seeing as I don't even have X installed on the machine it will run on. A bit ironic that wayland is now a hard depend for pcmanfm-qt on X11 and the X server is not.
| Code: |
numerckx /home/jesnow # emerge pcmanfm-qt -p
Local copy of remote index is up-to-date and will be used.
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Dependency resolution took 3.84 s (backtrack: 0/20).
[ebuild N ] sys-libs/mtdev-1.1.7
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libatomic_ops-7.8.2 ABI_X86="(32) (64) (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/boehm-gc-8.2.8 USE="large threads -cxx -static-libs" ABI_X86="(32) (64) (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/xcb-util-renderutil-0.3.10 ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/xcb-util-keysyms-0.4.1 ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/xcb-util-wm-0.4.2 ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/xcb-util-0.4.1 ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/xcb-util-image-0.4.1 ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor-0.1.5 ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.24 USE="nls -doc" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] www-client/w3m-0.5.3_p20230121 USE="nls ssl unicode -X -fbcon -gdk-pixbuf -gpm -imlib -lynxkeymap -nntp -xface" L10N="-ja"
[ebuild N ] virtual/w3m-1
[ebuild R ] app-text/xmlto-0.0.28-r11 USE="text*"
[ebuild N ] x11-misc/xdg-utils-1.2.1-r8 USE="-X -dbus -doc -gnome -perl -plasma"
[ebuild N ] kde-frameworks/kf-env-6
[ebuild N ] dev-util/intltool-0.51.0-r3
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libfm-extra-1.3.2
[ebuild N ] lxde-base/menu-cache-1.1.0-r1
[ebuild N ] dev-util/wayland-scanner-1.23.1
[ebuild N ] kde-frameworks/extra-cmake-modules-6.7.0 USE="-doc -test"
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libglvnd-1.7.0 USE="X -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-2.43 USE="-test"
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/double-conversion-3.3.0 USE="-test"
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libevdev-1.13.3 USE="-doc -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libpciaccess-0.18.1 USE="zlib" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] media-gfx/graphite2-1.3.14_p20210810-r3 USE="-perl -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libxkbcommon-1.7.0-r1 USE="X -doc -static-libs -test -tools -wayland" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/wayland-1.23.1 USE="-doc -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/wayland-protocols-1.38 USE="-test"
[ebuild N ] media-libs/harfbuzz-10.1.0 USE="cairo glib graphite introspection truetype -debug -doc -experimental -icu -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.124 USE="-doc -test -tools -udev -valgrind" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" VIDEO_CARDS="amdgpu intel nouveau radeon (-exynos) (-freedreno) (-omap) (-tegra) (-vc4) (-vivante) -vmware"
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libinput-1.27.0 USE="-doc -test" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom"
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtbase-6.8.1 USE="X concurrent dbus gui libinput network nls opengl sql sqlite ssl udev wayland widgets xml (zstd) -accessibility -brotli -cups -eglfs -evdev -gles2-only -gssapi -gtk -icu -journald -libproxy -mysql -oci8 -odbc -postgres -renderdoc -sctp -syslog -test -tslib -vulkan"
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtwayland-6.8.1 USE="-accessibility -compositor -gnome -qml -test -vulkan"
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qttools-6.8.1 USE="assistant linguist opengl qdbus widgets (zstd) -clang -designer -distancefieldgenerator -gles2-only -pixeltool -qdoc -qml -qmlls -qtattributionsscanner -qtdiag -qtplugininfo -vulkan" LLVM_SLOT="19 -17 -18"
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qttranslations-6.8.1
[ebuild N ] dev-util/lxqt-build-tools-2.0.0-r1
[ebuild N ] kde-frameworks/breeze-icons-6.7.0 USE="-test"
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtshadertools-6.8.1 USE="-test"
[ebuild N ] lxqt-base/lxqt-menu-data-2.0.0
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtdeclarative-6.8.1 USE="network opengl sql ssl widgets -accessibility -jit -qmlls -svg -vulkan"
[ebuild N ] virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme-0-r4
[ebuild N ] kde-plasma/layer-shell-qt-6.2.4 USE="-debug"
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libfm-qt-2.0.2-r1
[ebuild N ] x11-misc/pcmanfm-qt-2.0.0
numerckx /home/jesnow #
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GDH-gentoo
Veteran
Joined: 20 Jul 2019
Posts: 1797
Location: South America
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| jesnow wrote: | | Of course I have, it runs fine as long as you also install wayland. |
Then "prevents" was the wrong word.
| jesnow wrote: | | It's just a little much for me, seeing as I don't even have X installed on the machine it will run on. |
While I sympathise, this is a GUI file manager after all, so tons of dependencies are expected, as well as its upstream developers wanting it to be able to run on both X11 and Wayland, don't you think?
| jesnow wrote: | | A bit ironic that wayland is now a hard depend for pcmanfm-qt on X11 and the X server is not. |
No, because it is a bad analogy. PCManFM-Qt doesn't depend on a Wayland compositor either, which is what you should compare the X server to.
| jesnow wrote: | | Code: |
numerckx /home/jesnow # emerge pcmanfm-qt -p
... |
|
Let's see. dev-util/wayland-scanner installs just one program, /usr/bin/wayland-scanner, and other stuff used for building programs and such. dev-libs/wayland-protocols installs mostly XML and C header files, also for building programs and such. dev-libs/wayland installs libraries. No compositor in this list.
On the other hand, you are not complaining about x11-libs/xcb-util-wm or x11-libs/libxkbcommon, for example.
You could probably cut that down a bit with careful USE flags settings.
_________________
| NeddySeagoon wrote: | | I'm not a witch, I'm a retired electronics engineer |
| Ionen wrote: | | As a packager I just don't want things to get messier with weird build systems and multiple toolchains requirements though |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Chiitoo
Administrator
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Posts: 2749
Location: Here and Away Again
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
Desktop Environments
