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 Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:39 pm Post subject: No sound on fresh install using pipewire |
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Hi folks. I have a fresh gentoo install on a Tuxedo Pulse 14 Gen 1 laptop, and I can't get sound to work. It worked fine with the default Tuxedo OS install, so it's not a hardware issue. I've been fighting with this for a couple of days now, and I'm thoroughly confused
I've got the kernel bits set up, as indicated by the following
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$ lspci | grep Audio
04:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio Controller
04:00.5 Multimedia controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor (rev 01)
04:00.6 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio Controller
$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: Generic Analog [Generic Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
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And I've got the following pipewire config
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$ cat /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf.d/builtin-cards.conf
context.objects = [
# This creates a new Source node. It will have input ports
# that you can link, to provide audio for this source.
{ factory = adapter
args = {
factory.name = support.null-audio-sink
node.name = "my-mic"
node.description = "Microphone"
media.class = "Audio/Source/Virtual"
audio.position = "FL,FR"
monitor.passthrough = true
}
}
# This creates a single PCM source device for the given
# alsa device path hw:0. You can change source to sink
# to make a sink in the same way.
{ factory = adapter
args = {
factory.name = api.alsa.pcm.source
node.name = "alsa-source"
node.description = "PCM Source"
media.class = "Audio/Source"
api.alsa.path = "hw:1"
api.alsa.period-size = 1024
api.alsa.headroom = 0
api.alsa.disable-mmap = false
api.alsa.disable-batch = false
audio.format = "S16LE"
audio.rate = 48000
audio.channels = 2
audio.position = "FL,FR"
}
}
# This creates a single PCM source device for the given
# alsa device path hw:0. You can change source to sink
# to make a sink in the same way.
{ factory = adapter
args = {
factory.name = api.alsa.pcm.sink
node.name = "alsa-sink"
node.description = "PCM Sink"
media.class = "Audio/Sink"
api.alsa.path = "hw:1"
api.alsa.period-size = 1024
api.alsa.headroom = 0
api.alsa.disable-mmap = false
api.alsa.disable-batch = false
audio.format = "S16LE"
audio.rate = 48000
audio.channels = 2
audio.position = "FL,FR"
}
}
]
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I have non-root user (setup) for use while I setup the laptop, which is a member of the following groups
| Code: | | lp wheel audio video input lpadmin pipewire setup |
The `audio` group is included because the alsa devices in `/dev/snd` were owned by root:audio, and didn't show up in `wpctl status`. Now it shows
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$ wpctl status
PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [1.4.1, setup@giobhniu, cookie:3982878448]
└─ Clients:
35. wpctl [1.4.1, setup@giobhniu, pid:12706]
Audio
├─ Devices:
│
├─ Sinks:
│ 33. PCM Sink [vol: 1.00]
│
├─ Sources:
│ 31. Microphone [vol: 1.00]
│ 32. PCM Source [vol: 1.00]
│
├─ Filters:
│
└─ Streams:
Video
├─ Devices:
│
├─ Sinks:
│
├─ Sources:
│
├─ Filters:
│
└─ Streams:
Settings
└─ Default Configured Devices:
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At this point, I would expect `aplay /user/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav` to produce some sound, but it doesn't. It doesn't crash, there's just no noise. I suspect this has to do with the pipewire config using 'hw:1'. Pipewire doesn't start if I use 'hw:0', and nor does aplay or alsamixer. I think hw:1 is probably routing to the HDMI device, but I can't find any link between device names and alsa, the the names used in piepwire config.
EDIT: I'm using systemd, and the Wayfire WM. I've got pipewire being launched as a systemd user service. It appears to be running
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$ ps aux | grep pipewire
setup 47347 0.0 0.0 32616 9352 ? S<sl 12:03 0:00 /usr/bin/pipewire
setup 47349 0.0 0.0 20256 6508 ? S<sl 12:03 0:00 /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
root 49207 0.0 0.0 7116 2408 pts/0 S+ 12:16 0:00 grep --color=auto pipewire
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I've got the sound-server USE flag set too
| Code: | $ emerge -pv pipewire
[ebuild R ] media-video/pipewire-1.4.1:0/0.4::gentoo USE="X bluetooth dbus echo-cancel extra ffmpeg gstreamer liblc3 lv2 man pipewire-alsa readline sound-server ssl systemd v4l zeroconf -doc (-elogind) -flatpak -gsettings -ieee1394 -jack-client -jack-sdk -loudness -modemmanager -roc (-selinux) (-system-service) -test" 0 KiB
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| What DE/WM are you using? What init system? Did you launch pipewire with gentoo-pipewire-launcher? Do you have sound-server USE flag enabled for pipewire? |
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sirlark
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Hey. thanks for the response. I'm using systemd, and the Wayfire WM. I've got pipewire being launched as a systemd user service. It appears to be running
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$ ps aux | grep pipewire
setup 47347 0.0 0.0 32616 9352 ? S<sl 12:03 0:00 /usr/bin/pipewire
setup 47349 0.0 0.0 20256 6508 ? S<sl 12:03 0:00 /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
root 49207 0.0 0.0 7116 2408 pts/0 S+ 12:16 0:00 grep --color=auto pipewire
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I've got the sound-server USE flag set too
| Code: | $ emerge -pv pipewire
[ebuild R ] media-video/pipewire-1.4.1:0/0.4::gentoo USE="X bluetooth dbus echo-cancel extra ffmpeg gstreamer liblc3 lv2 man pipewire-alsa readline sound-server ssl systemd v4l zeroconf -doc (-elogind) -flatpak -gsettings -ieee1394 -jack-client -jack-sdk -loudness -modemmanager -roc (-selinux) (-system-service) -test" 0 KiB
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I've also edited my original post to add this info.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 11:59 am Post subject: Re: No sound on fresh install using pipewire |
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| sirlark wrote: |
I've got the kernel bits set up, as indicated by the following |
Custom kernel? You will want these for AMD audio.
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK
Just to make sure, as it's easy to skip them in the kernel config, they don't seem like something you would need for AMD audio... |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Ah, I'd missed the RALTEK one, I've added it and rebooted. Now I've got it enabled (see below), but still no sound.
| Code: | $ zgrep CONFIG_SND_HDA /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_SND_HDA=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC_LEDS=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=y
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_RECONFIG=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP_MODE=1
CONFIG_SND_HDA_PATCH_LOADER=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CIRRUS_SCODEC=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_SCODEC_CS35L41=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CS_DSP_CONTROLS=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_SCODEC_COMPONENT=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_SCODEC_CS35L41_I2C=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_SCODEC_CS35L41_SPI=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_SCODEC_CS35L56=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_SCODEC_CS35L56_I2C=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_SCODEC_CS35L56_SPI=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_SCODEC_TAS2781_I2C=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_SCODEC_TAS2781_SPI=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_ANALOG=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SIGMATEL=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_VIA=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CIRRUS=y
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CS8409 is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SENARYTECH=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0110=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0132=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0132_DSP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA=y
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SI3054 is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_POWER_SAVE_DEFAULT=0
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL_HDMI_SILENT_STREAM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CTL_DEV_ID is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CORE=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_DSP_LOADER=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_COMPONENT=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_EXT_CORE=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_PREALLOC_SIZE=0
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:50 am Post subject: |
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First things first: all sound servers, including pipewire, run on top of ALSA.
So, does your sound work with ALSA alone?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Not fully. ALSA detects the cards, and alsamixer works. But wavplay complains that there is no /dev/dsp
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/dev/dsp belongs to OSS. It's what we've been using before ALSA came around, and nobody has it those days anymore.
Are you able to get sound out to the speakers? You can try speaker-test, audacity, or even just this should make some noise with your analog audio
aplay -v -D hw:1,0 /dev/urandom -f S16_LE -c 2
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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That works! Sound produced. So, I'm guessing it's a pipewire config thing.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Great, so that's one possible problem area ruled out.
Now, does your aplay -L report pipewire playback device? You should have a gentoo-provided config snippet in /etc/alsa/conf.d/50-pipewire.conf which creates a bridge from ALSA to PW.
I also use an extra bit which makes this pipewire bridge the default playback device for all those ALSA-only clients that can't be configured | Code: | cat /etc/alsa/conf.d/99-default.conf
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave { pcm "pipewire" }
}
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One thing that stands out to me in your post is USE='-elogind'. I >think< (don't quote me on this, it would be nice if someone could confirm or correct) elogind is involved in session setup for applications, and having it disabled prevents them from finding pipewire's sockets. AFAIR we had a similar topic some time ago where this turned out to be the problem.
If you don't want to or can't flip this flag, it might be possible to fix it by setting variables manually, but I I don't know what those variables would be.
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| szatox wrote: | | One thing that stands out to me in your post is USE='-elogind'. I >think< (don't quote me on this, it would be nice if someone could confirm or correct) elogind is involved in session setup for applications, and having it disabled prevents them from finding pipewire's sockets. |
He uses systemd, so elogind is not the problem here. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my aplay output, everything look to be in order; pipewire exists and the default is pointing to it, unless there's a difference between sound server and media server?
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$ aplay -L
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
pipewire
PipeWire Sound Server
default
Default ALSA Output (currently PipeWire Media Server)
hdmi:CARD=Generic,DEV=0
HD-Audio Generic, HDMI 0
HDMI Audio Output
sysdefault:CARD=Generic_1
HD-Audio Generic, ALC269VC Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Generic_1,DEV=0
HD-Audio Generic, ALC269VC Analog
Front output / input
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He uses systemd, so elogind is not the problem here.
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Yup, I use systemd. Although, I don't run a DE. I'm using qtgreet and wayfire. Very minimal. So there might indeed be some session startup config missing.
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Should be fine. Though if it was, you wouldn't have created this topic... Anyway; launch this in terminal:
pw-link -miol
and try to play something. And see if it appears in the log. This is an example of a working machine:
| Code: | + alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FL
+ alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FR
+ alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FL -> easyeffects_sink:playback_FL
+ alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FR -> easyeffects_sink:playback_FR
- alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FL -> easyeffects_sink:playback_FL
- alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FL
- alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FR -> easyeffects_sink:playback_FR
- alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FR
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:34 am Post subject: Re: No sound on fresh install using pipewire |
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| sirlark wrote: | I have non-root user (setup) for use while I setup the laptop, which is a member of the following groups
| Code: | | lp wheel audio video input lpadmin pipewire setup |
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Maybe (I'm just guessing) the combination of alsa and pipewire groups is causing the issue. Can you try to remove your user from one group and relogin each time and test if you can play a sound. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Following along since I'm also having sound issues.
Running pw-link -miol and then running speaker-test I get the following:
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+ alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FL -> alsa_output.pci-0000_03_00.1.pro-output-3:playback_AUX0
+ alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FR -> alsa_output.pci-0000_03_00.1.pro-output-3:playback_AUX1
- alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FL -> alsa_output.pci-0000_03_00.1.pro-output-3:playback_AUX0
- alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FL
- alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FR -> alsa_output.pci-0000_03_00.1.pro-output-3:playback_AUX1
- alsa_playback.speaker-test:output_FR
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Not relevant to OP, but there's a chance our situations are similar. I don't have any extra pipewire configurations, and I get no sound.
EDIT: I'm also on OpenRC, so may not be a systemd or OpenRC issue. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:37 am Post subject: |
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I suspect we've found the problem...
| Code: | $ pw-link -miol
can't connect: Host is down |
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Multimedia
Thanks for the help so far though. Here's the