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Hello everyone,
Today I compiled and installed gentoo. I followed the installation guide, step by step, and it worked perfectly.
When I was done compiling the kernel (2.6), I had to do:
emerge --usepkg nforce-kernel
emerge nforce-net
emerge nforce-audio
nforce-kernel compiled like a charm, but the other two exited with an error. I ajusted all the files you need to ajust, and at the end, when I did
etc-update
it asked me questions. I answered that it should update everything.
I rebooted and my gentoo installation worked but gave me some errors. First my boot partition gave some errors, but i fixed that with the suggestion linux gave me. I also couldn't mount my cdrom. I looked at /etc/fstab and saw that all the ajustments i had made were gone. Is this because i updated everything when etc-update'in? There was also no cdrom device in /dev Second, it gave me errors that there was no eth0 found in the system. In my linux live cd it works perfectly, but when I try to compile i always get an error.
Can someone help me?
Specs:
Amd Athlon XP 2500+
nForce2 mobo
60 Gb maxtor hdd
/dev/hda6 is boot partition
/dev/hda7 is swap
/dev/hda8 is root partition
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Ouch. Well this is a painful lesson learned. Wish more n00bs would read posts like this before blindly accepting etc-updates. Whenever you run etc-update you need to look at the files it's going to change, and if you already edited them (in this case it was /etc/fstab and /etc/config.d/net) you need to look through the proposed changes carefully and include or reject them line by line. Usually if anything wants to change your fstab file just reject it. Who knows what other configs you've blown away that way, the lucky thing is you probably haven't edited that many on such a new install.
So look through the install guides and recreate your net and fstab files like you did the first time.
Also with kernel source packages, unlike almost every other type of package, emerging the package doesn't actually compile the kernel. It simply installs the source and applies a bunch of packages. That's probably why the other emerges failed--they were looking for compiled modules which didn't exist.
At the very least to compile the kernel you need to:
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rm linux
ln -s 2.6.0-whatever linux
cd linux
make menuconfig
make all modules_install
mount /boot
cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-whatever
umount /boot
reboot |
Before you just blindly follow these instructions read the manuals on kernel compiling and especially on configuring the kernel.
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oguz286
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| FreeFly42 wrote: | Ouch. Well this is a painful lesson learned. Wish more n00bs would read posts like this before blindly accepting etc-updates. Whenever you run etc-update you need to look at the files it's going to change, and if you already edited them (in this case it was /etc/fstab and /etc/config.d/net) you need to look through the proposed changes carefully and include or reject them line by line. Usually if anything wants to change your fstab file just reject it. Who knows what other configs you've blown away that way, the lucky thing is you probably haven't edited that many on such a new install.
So look through the install guides and recreate your net and fstab files like you did the first time.
Also with kernel source packages, unlike almost every other type of package, emerging the package doesn't actually compile the kernel. It simply installs the source and applies a bunch of packages. That's probably why the other emerges failed--they were looking for compiled modules which didn't exist.
At the very least to compile the kernel you need to:
| Code: | cd /usr/src/
rm linux
ln -s 2.6.0-whatever linux
cd linux
make menuconfig
make all modules_install
mount /boot
cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-whatever
umount /boot
reboot |
Before you just blindly follow these instructions read the manuals on kernel compiling and especially on configuring the kernel. |
Yes it was not very bright to just update everything. That's my mistake.
But about kernel compiling: I did all of that you said. I emerged gentoo-dev-sources and I did do make menuconfig. I compiled the kernel and placed it in /boot/kernel-2.6 So that should not be the problem, since i can boot my kernel and i get the bash prompt.
One other thing: when I chroot, and I need to do something else, i just exit. The i turn back to root user. When I give a command, I get a kernel error, something like virtual adress 00000000 error ( i don't know it exactly). So I need to reboot. Could that be it?
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:20 am Post subject: |
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You dont need the nforce-net pakage. (does it work in 2.6... I dont think so...), just use the reverse engineered forcedeth option under 10-100mbit ethernet cards in the kernel options....
Not certain whether that only is included in 'gentoo-dev-sources' or patched into the 2.6 regular but it works great for me...
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| Nick W wrote: | You dont need the nforce-net pakage. (does it work in 2.6... I dont think so...), just use the reverse engineered forcedeth option under 10-100mbit ethernet cards in the kernel options....
Not certain whether that only is included in 'gentoo-dev-sources' or patched into the 2.6 regular but it works great for me...
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And how do I do that? Just select it?
Thanks, i'll try that!
BTW, the files that were replaced by etc-update...Can I just replace them with my version again?
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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I've at work right now so I can't give you the exact info.
To copile the nforce-net you need to use the lastest on portage, type emerge /usr/portage/net-misc/nforce-net/nforce-net-xxxx ( donno the version but I think it's 2.6.1-r2 ). Same goes for the audio version. Course you need to start the machine with your new 2.6.x kernel and do this after, then a simple modprobe will load the modules.
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| To wrote: | I've at work right now so I can't give you the exact info.
To copile the nforce-net you need to use the lastest on portage, type emerge /usr/portage/net-misc/nforce-net/nforce-net-xxxx ( donno the version but I think it's 2.6.1-r2 ). Same goes for the audio version. Course you need to start the machine with your new 2.6.x kernel and do this after, then a simple modprobe will load the modules.
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Thanks for your advice...
I'm writing this in Gentoo Linux with Lynx installed,
but I thougt links was the browser you use with live cd's, so
I emerged links, and now it is installing xfree86??? What is links? Can I just cancel it without problems?
At the nVidia site, it says that the drivers require a 2.4 kernel,
so i can't use my sound... Or maybe there is another way?
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Links is primarily a text browser but it probably has some optional X component. The beauty of Gentoo is that you don't have to accept this if you don't want to, you can use USE flags to compile only the optional components you want. In your case it would be:
| Code: | | USE="-X" emerge links |
to do away with the X component. You might also want to put -gpm in there as well to avoid building the console mouse driver as it has problems with modern graphics drivers. You an also add these to your make.conf file so that they get applied to every emerge avoiding the need to prepend them on the command line.
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oguz286
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| Admiral LSD` wrote: | Links is primarily a text browser but it probably has some optional X component. The beauty of Gentoo is that you don't have to accept this if you don't want to, you can use USE flags to compile only the optional components you want. In your case it would be:
| Code: | | USE="-X" emerge links |
to do away with the X component. You might also want to put -gpm in there as well to avoid building the console mouse driver as it has problems with modern graphics drivers. You an also add these to your make.conf file so that they get applied to every emerge avoiding the need to prepend them on the command line. |
I see, well i just configured X and it works like a charm. OK, i fixed the mouse and cdrom problems. Only the sound problem left, but it doesn't work with 2.6 kernels...
I think i'm going to try KDE now...
Thankx everbody for your help!
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Before you emerge anything it is always a good idea to do an emerge -p (pretend) and see what packages it will install.
As for your mouse, did you configure it in X? Is it a ps/2 or usb mouse? Do you have a mouse dev? Have you tried cat /dev/mousedev (don't use mouse dev use whatever your actual mouse device is) and moving your mouse to see if you're getting input? Have you looked in /var/log/XFree86.0.log to see what problems happened loading the mouse driver?
For the CD ROM did you compile support built-in or as a module?
If a module, did you add it to the autoload file for 2.6? What do you get on dmesg when you modprobe manually?
If built in: look in dmesg for error messages. Compile it as a module and follow items for module above.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| FreeFly42 wrote: | Before you emerge anything it is always a good idea to do an emerge -p (pretend) and see what packages it will install.
As for your mouse, did you configure it in X? Is it a ps/2 or usb mouse? Do you have a mouse dev? Have you tried cat /dev/mousedev (don't use mouse dev use whatever your actual mouse device is) and moving your mouse to see if you're getting input? Have you looked in /var/log/XFree86.0.log to see what problems happened loading the mouse driver?
For the CD ROM did you compile support built-in or as a module?
If a module, did you add it to the autoload file for 2.6? What do you get on dmesg when you modprobe manually?
If built in: look in dmesg for error messages. Compile it as a module and follow items for module above. |
I just ajusted my post  I fixed it all and everything works, except for my audio... but I hope that soon nVidia will release a 2.6 kernel driver...
Thanks again!
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2.6 kernels have ALSA built in. I recommend not compiling anything with oss support and disabling the OSS extensions. I had some random keyboard locks with programs trying to use the OSS extensions in 2.6. You'll have to figure out which driver to load for your sound card, but there's plenty of documentation for that in the forums...
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Good advice from FreeFly, my alsa setup on nforce2 works great. Don't forget to change the arts setting in kde to use the alsa drivers....
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Well sound isn't that big of a problem, but I can't
get kde to compile. I did:
emerge kde
I don't get any errors, but it ends with a bar of red "-" signs.
I did env-update && source /etc/profile and tried to run kdm, but it can't find it. What did I do wrong here?
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Hey yeah, i also got that error. Well...now i'm trying to do what you said in your last post...
Keeping my thumbs crossed 
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Hey Nick, i have merged qt succesfully!
So what now? emerge kde ?
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I merged kdelibs succesfully, and now i'm going to try emerge kde.
I'll let you know if it works.
thanks!
EDIT: I just got an errormessage:
permission denied
for the /root dir. But i'm root, so why doesn't he access it?
It's still compiling, and I have to go to school now, so i'll see when i get back.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Do this:
# FEATURES="-sandbox" USE="-java" emerge kde
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I bet your sandbox problems are from not having the sticky bit set on /var/tmp... Usually comes from forgetting the "-p" option when expanding the stage tarballs. Worth a look and better than not using the sandbox! 
ls -ld /var/tmp should give:
| Code: | | drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 152 Jan 2 13:57 /var/tmp/ |
Edit: it shows up as an error in / because it's running in a chrooted sandbox, not really on /
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Nope, mine shows exactyl that.....
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Or it could be a bug in the ebuild script and I could be totally off base! Ah well. Good luck!
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I compiled kde with just emerge kde and it works...
But how kan I add kdm to startup?
I tried:
rc-update add kdm default
but I get an error that /etc/init.d/kdm was not found.
What's wrong?
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Moved from Installing Gentoo.
KDE questions go in Desktop Environments.
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