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Shan
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 Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 5:38 am Post subject: KDE 3.2 Beta2 can't be installed without GTK+? |
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I'm in the process of installing Gentoo from scratch (that is, on a clean system, from stage3) and I've come to the part where I'm installing KDE. I've unmasked the proper packages and so on, and things are (as a whole) going fine, except for the fact that I'm being "required" to install gtk+ in order to satisfy a kde dependency issue. Specifically, the fact that kdemultimedia needs imlib, which in turn needs gtk. This is wholely unacceptable to me. I've got GTK(+/-/2), and IMlib 'removed' in my USE var, as well as gone so far as to remove them as deps from the .ebuild files, but this is something I should not have to do. I'm not sure if this is a rant, or if something can actually be done that I'm just not seeing. I dunno, you tell me. This is what I've got in my make.conf file
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USE="X kde qt alsa -gtk -gtk+ -gtk2 -gnome -java -cups -xmms -oss -imlib -lame"
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Should that not be enough?
As a side note, it seems as though kdemultimedia needs xmms as well, and though this too is unsatisfactory with me, I can deal with it for the time being.
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mattam
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| problem is, xmms needs gtk+-1.2 |
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Shan
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Why is xmms being installed then, when I purpousely include it on the list of things to not include (does that make sense?) Unless its a dep of something else (What would require XMMS in KDE? KDE has juk and a billion other multimedia apps) it shouldn't be called to install.....
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:01 am Post subject: |
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run emerge -pv to the list of packages+use flags it tries to install.
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ecatmur
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| The USE flags are not a list of what to and not to install; they're a list of what optional features of packages to enable and disable. |
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I think xmms gets installed as a byproduct of either mplayer or xine having support for xmms plugins, and thus needing to emerge it-- which also pulls in gtk. kdemultimedia depends on libxine, and other parts of kde might need mplayer (like kmplayer)
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| ecatmur wrote: | | The USE flags are not a list of what to and not to install; they're a list of what optional features of packages to enable and disable. |
This is something I'm well aware of, however XMMS is (AFAIK) not declared as a dep of anything in any of the .ebuild files. I solved the xmms issue by manually masking the current version and below (though if / when they release a new version I suppose I'll have to mask it as well).
And for the record, xine gets called in, not mplayer, though I don't recall any xmms support in xine whenever I would compile it in myself on other distros.
A year ago I wouldn't have cared (nor understood the implications) if I ran gtk apps in KDE, however, I'm attempting to make my system as 'pure' as I can with only QT and KDE apps, and it shouldn't be this difficult to prevent 100% optional components from being installed.
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