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vitriol
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wow....very impressive. i'll HAVE to try it! love the transparency.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| vitriol wrote: | | wow....very impressive. i'll HAVE to try it! love the transparency. |
Have fun. I've got a big-ass display and never maximize windows, so a taskbar in Openbox is kinda useless for me, but if it helps you, then more power to you. |
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I've had a chance to play around with pypanel and its exactly what I needed. Works perfectly (even though it was masked in portage). Pypanel is working great with openbox  Thanks again.
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I'm supprised no ones mentioned it, but Fluxbox is always a good option for low speed/ram machines. I used Fluxbox with gnome-panel for quite some time (until I realised that I really had no use for a panel) with 128 megs of ram. You can still use all your GTK programs and even gDesklets. Having Nautilus not draw your desktop and ditching Metacity makes a big difference.
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vitriol
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As per your suggestion, I'm trying to use fluxbox. After all, the menu seems easier to edit! However, I'm not able to use pypanel with fluxbox.
| Code: | vitriol@fux0red vitriol $ pypanel
/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Xlib/display.py:30: DeprecationWarning: Non-ASCII character '\xf6' in file /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Xlib/protocol/display.py on line 749, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details
import protocol.display
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/pypanel", line 642, in ?
PyPanel(display.Display())
File "/usr/bin/pypanel", line 77, in __init__
self.loop(self.display, self.root, self.window, self.ewmh)
File "/usr/bin/pypanel", line 589, in loop
self.updatePanel(dsp, root)
File "/usr/bin/pypanel", line 419, in updatePanel
if task not in self.tasks[cws]:
TypeError: list indices must be integers
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I shouldn't be complaining b/c pypanel was masked. I might just learn to live with openbox...I just wish there was an easier way to setup the openbox menu.
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| vitriol wrote: | | As per your suggestion, I'm trying to use fluxbox. After all, the menu seems easier to edit! However, I'm not able to use pypanel with fluxbox. |
I'm surprised nobody's come up with a menu editor for Openbox3, given the work put into the config tool ObConf. Then again, I wanted an excuse to learn Python... hmm... |
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vitriol
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I've found something on another thread: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=94982&highlight=openbox+menu+edit
It gave me an easy way to set up my openbox menu automatically.
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bash-2.05b$ locate menu.xml
/etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml
/usr/share/gnome/help/user-guide/C/goseditmainmenu.xml
/usr/share/gnome/help/user-guide/C/wgoseditmainmenu.xml
/home/vitriol/.config/openbox/menu.xml
bash-2.05b$ mmaker -o /home/vitriol/.config/openbox/menu.xml openbox3
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My only problem is that the most frequently used applications (firebird, xmms, xchat, Eterm) are in categories in the menu and I have to go through searching for them.
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| vitriol wrote: | | My only problem is that the most frequently used applications (firebird, xmms, xchat, Eterm) are in categories in the menu and I have to go through searching for them. |
Exactly. I bet you'd still prefer a GUI that lets you set up your menu your way, right? >^..^<
If I come up with something I'll post. |
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vitriol
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hmm..maybe a GUI would be nice, but a shell script would be just as nice 
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=71887&start=150
If you scroll down a little on the 1st page, there is a bash script posted by dub.wav.
So I've gone from a standard bloated gnome set-up to this:
Openbox3 (desktop and window manager)
Rox file manager
Mutt (mail client )
Pypanel
feh (setting the background)
With those apps, I've been able to get rid of virtually all of the bloat. Sure, there are other apps that are less "bloatful" like dillo for a web browser, but I just can't get away from Firebird (yummy) 
This desktop isn't so sparse as you'd think, either, still plenty of eye candy. I'll post a screenie later.
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Something must be wrong if it took 11 hours to emerge openbox. Shouldnt even take 11 minutes.
You can middle click on the desktop to find your iconed apps. You can move your mouse over to the side and roll the wheel and go to a brand new desktop and have all the space in the world. No panel needed. Plus its nice to icon a app and have it completely out of the way.
Also you can set up the menu to have most frequent apps easily accessed. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it turned out that I had some out of date packages and had to update gcc among other things....thanks for the tip on desktop switching The script I found to interactively edit menu.xml for openbox wasn't as friendly as I was hoping it would be. But with some work it could be extrememly useful for alot of people.
It might be time to brush up on my python....
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