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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:09 am    Post subject: orinoco minipci and wireless Reply with quote

I just put gentoo on a toshiba satellite 5205-S119 that has a orinoco minipci wireless card. It's running the 2.6 kernel. Basically, it seems that it's just not recognizing the card at all. I have a sony vaio that also has an orinoco minipci card and all i had to do to get it working was to load the orinoco_pci module. Then iwconfig could immediately see the device.

For the toshiba I've loaded the orinoco_pci module and iwconfig does not even recognize it exists.

iwconfig:
Code:
eth0      no wireless extensions.

lo        no wireless extensions.


absolutely nothing about a wireless device

After scouring the forums I've added ISA support to the kernel in case it didn't find all the IRQ's. This hasn't changed the situation. Any ideas why I can't even see the card?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should try removing pcmcia support from kernel and use pcmcia-cs modules. Also make sure to compile wireless support under Network Devices in kernel. There is an indepth tutorial, use the search function.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Already looked through all the tutorials I could find. And have tried removing pcmcia support from kernel and using pcmcia-cs. Still no luck. Same results.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have this same card on my HP laptop and I have not had any problems with 2.4.20+ or 2.6.x ...

Anyways, does the device get detected on startup and assigned to eth0 or is that another card that you have?

Does it show up with `lspci`?
Code:
00:0a.0 Network controller: Harris Semiconductor Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)


If it doesn't show up there then the kernel is not even seeing the card let alone assigning a driver to communicate with it. That would mean something is either wrong with the card or the slot.

Have your tried swapping cards with your working laptop? I know with wireless cards the chipsets change a lot wrt version numbers and they are not always backwards compatible with their drivers.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this: under -Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA) ---> PCMCIA/CardBus support --->
Code:
<M> PCMCIA/CardBus support                                     
<M> CardBus yenta-compatible bridge support
Device Drivers --->Networking support --->PCMCIA network device support --->
Code:
[*] PCMCIA network device support
Device Drivers --->Networking support --->Wireless LAN (non-hamradio) --->
Code:
[*] Wireless LAN drivers (non-hamradio) & Wireless Extensions
<M>   Hermes chipset 802.11b support (Orinoco/Prism2/Symbol)
<M>   Hermes PCMCIA card support


recompile and reboot with new kernel. now load the module yenta_socket and possibly orinoco/orinoco_cs
Code:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge pcmcia-cs
and then start up pcmcia
Code:
/etc/init.d/pcmcia start


**Note that you may have to include more modules than what is listed here. Hopefully this helps though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracnor wrote:
Try this: under -Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA) ---> PCMCIA/CardBus support --->
Code:
<M> PCMCIA/CardBus support                                     
<M> CardBus yenta-compatible bridge support
Device Drivers --->Networking support --->PCMCIA network device support --->
Code:
[*] PCMCIA network device support
Device Drivers --->Networking support --->Wireless LAN (non-hamradio) --->
Code:
[*] Wireless LAN drivers (non-hamradio) & Wireless Extensions
<M>   Hermes chipset 802.11b support (Orinoco/Prism2/Symbol)
<M>   Hermes PCMCIA card support


recompile and reboot with new kernel. now load the module yenta_socket and possibly orinoco/orinoco_cs
Code:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge pcmcia-cs
and then start up pcmcia
Code:
/etc/init.d/pcmcia start


**Note that you may have to include more modules than what is listed here. Hopefully this helps though.


I beleive his card is a miniPCI card not a PCMCIA. If so, the PCMCIA drivers will have no affect as this card resides on a different bus. Unless I am missing something or some weird workaround...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

molander wrote:


I beleive his card is a miniPCI card not a PCMCIA. If so, the PCMCIA drivers will have no affect as this card resides on a different bus. Unless I am missing something or some weird workaround...


some laptops and cards use a funky PCMCIA bridge for the minipci slot. Quite a few of the dells do this, so the card actually shows up on the "3rd pcmcia slot" and use the orinoco_cs driver.

As for 2.6, use the kernel PCMCIA stuff and install the ~x86 pcmcia-cs to get the userland tools (with /usr/src/linux pointing to the 2.6 kernel)(if you don't have pcmcia-cs already installed against a 2.4 kernel) . good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all very much! Dracnor you're post fixed it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh....make that: Dracnor YOUR post fixed it. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BassDemon wrote:
heh....make that: Dracnor YOUR post fixed it. :)

Glad to hear it :) Do you know what part you were missing before? I had trouble getting stuff to load properly without the yenta_socket module. That was the key for me...never had to load this module with the 2.4 series kenel, that's why I had such a hard time the first time I tried to get pcmcia working.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I bet it was the yenta_socket module. The rest of it i've tried before. I couldn't even get my orinoco card working on my sony with the 2.4 kernel at all. Switch to the 2.6 kernel and all I had to do was load the module and it worked.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: orinoco minipci and wireless Reply with quote

Hi

BassDemon wrote:
I just put gentoo on a toshiba satellite 5205-S119 that has a orinoco minipci wireless card. It's running the 2.6 kernel. Basically, it seems that it's just not recognizing the card at all. I have a sony vaio that also has an orinoco minipci card and all i had to do to get it working was to load the orinoco_pci module. Then iwconfig could immediately see the device.

For the toshiba I've loaded the orinoco_pci module and iwconfig does not even recognize it exists.


For the MiniPCI-Card, you need the orinoco_cs module. So include it in your kernel as module, emerge pcmcia-cs (with yenta-socket as pcmcia-driver), load pcmcia-cs and it should work.

cu Thomas
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