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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: fujitsu simens laptop, acpi & 2.6 2.6.1-mm4 Reply with quote

Hi All

Just finished installing Gentoo on my Fujitsu Siemens P4 2.55 GHZ ( not mobile cpu ) Laptop.
I installed the 1.4 with the mm kernle 2.6.1.
The kernel was configured with acpi support.
The BIOS does not give me controll over the power saving / heat controll

when im doing heavy duties like compiling ( tried to install mozilla ) the laptop suddenly shut down.

some stat the i find useful:

cat /proc/acpi/thermalzone/THRC/cooling_mode
<not supported>
cat /proc/acpi/thermalzone/THRC/polling_frequeny
<polling disabled>
cat /proc/acpi/thermalzone/THRC/state
ok
cat /proc/acpi/thermalzone/THRC/temprature
53 C <-- this is when doing nothing
cat /proc/acpi/thermalzone/THRC/trip_points
critical (S5): 79C
Under cat /proc/acpi/fan i have nothing, is this ok ?

When I try to do something heavy the /proc/acpi/thermalzone/THRC/temprature get very high real soon and the laptop shutdown.

I also noticed that the fan does not increase its speed at all.

I also browesed the forum and found that this problem accour alot but I couldnt find a good solution to it.

Any ideas ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got almost the same thing : I boot the laptop, and within 5 minutes it shutdown with no particular messages ... then I reboot and then the laptop do not shutdown until I ask for it ...
I run 2.4.22 ...

Do you have flashed your BIOS ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sleeper wrote:
I got almost the same thing : I boot the laptop, and within 5 minutes it shutdown with no particular messages ... then I reboot and then the laptop do not shutdown until I ask for it ...
I run 2.4.22 ...

Do you have flashed your BIOS ?


I dont think there is a an update to my laptop.

can you look in you logs for message that state that your CPU reached critical heat and the system is going for halt ?

thugh the real question is if there a bug in the 2.6.1 regarding acpi ? the live cd instellation worked just fine and the fans did the work very well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mbn wrote:

I dont think there is a an update to my laptop.

What is your model ? Mine is an Amilo D7830 and there's an update for the BIOS.

mbn wrote:
can you look in you logs for message that state that your CPU reached critical heat and the system is going for halt ?


Looking at my logs ( syslog, messages, debug and kernel.log) there's nothing like this .. but the ACPI was not totaly configured, and it perhaps make the difference ...

mbn wrote:
thugh the real question is if there a bug in the 2.6.1 regarding acpi ? the live cd instellation worked just fine and the fans did the work very well.


I did not yet try a 2.6 beast on it, but will try as soon as I finished installing it :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To make the problem go away on my Compaq laptop I just don't load the "thermal" module. :?

Machine hasn't burned out yet ...

No luck with suspend-to-disk with 2.6.x; I'm currently running 2.4.18.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I did not yet try a 2.6 beast on it, but will try as soon as I finished installing it :)

strange, as the live cd worked ( 2.4 ). maybe its indeed a bios problem. ill try to upgrade it later
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hypnos wrote:
To make the problem go away on my Compaq laptop I just don't load the "thermal" module. :?


Humm.... I didn't have any ACPI modules loaded ...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK.. Tonight I tried again: no reboot, but I can see 2 differences with my previous experiences:

  • I didn't compile anything: thus the temperature doesn't go higher than 75 celsius (which seems me quite high no ?) (note that the ACPI config stuff said that the upper limit is 85 celsius ..). If temperatuer is the problem, I can perhaps increment the upper limit ..
  • I worked continuously: thus the screen didn't have to go off
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:10 am    Post subject: sovled. more or less Reply with quote

I upgraded the laptop Bios and the fan started to work just fine.

This is strange as in the XP evrything worked before the upgrade.

thugh still nothing apear under the /proc/acpi/fan directory

by the way, i compile all the acpi futured in the 2.6.1-mm4
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK.. I'm going to flash BIOS also .. By the way what is the temperature of your proc (when idle..) ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ACPI support isn't very good under linux, so flashing the BIOS will probably not change anything... If you're lucky you might get sw-suspend to work but I wouldn't count on it...

I've been running 2.5/6 for a while now on an Amilo D 7800 and it has happened that the fans wouldn't come on, resulting in the pc shutting down when the cpu got too hot, but it happens extremely rarely
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK .. I've found some more things:

  • When I first boot: the temperature given by the sensors is 0 degre for the CPU and doesn't change. But when the machine shutdown and I reboot the temperature is correct: aboute 50 degre (note that ACPI temperature still return 75)
  • I've found that the DSDT is seriously bugged, and I'm in the process of overriding the system one by a fixed one ...
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