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jere890
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 Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject: ieee1394 external hardrive |
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I have a maxtor 80gig hard drive and have been using instructions to get it working from http://www.sb.fsu.edu/~xray/Manuals/FireWire_Linux.html i have the exact drive as they talk about.
problem is i cant get a filesystem on it. it wont read it as a block device
fdisk -l gives me this:
| Code: | Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 5 40131 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 6 68 506047+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda3 69 4081 32234422+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda4 4082 4864 6289447+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
Disk /dev/sda: 81.9 GB, 81963515904 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 9964 80035798+ 83 Linux
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so i know the drive is there. but when i try to put either ext3 or reiserfs or anything on it i get this
| Code: | mkreiserfs /dev/sda1 ~
<-------------mkreiserfs, 2003------------->
reiserfsprogs 3.6.8
is_mounted: /dev/sda1 is neither regular file nor block device
zsh: abort mkreiserfs /dev/sda1
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| Code: | mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 ~
mke2fs 1.34 (25-Jul-2003)
/dev/sda1 is not a block special device.
Proceed anyway? (y,n) y
mkfs.ext3: Device size reported to be zero. Invalid partition specified, or
partition table wasn't reread after running fdisk, due to
a modified partition being busy and in use. You may need to reboot
to re-read your partition table.
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Why is it not reading my drive as a block device! ahhhhh im going insane. help please
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I had a drive where I had to make the filesystem on /dev/hde for some reason one time instead of /dev/hde1. hde1 was there but the system said it was zero-length and there were no other partitions. Have you tried just making a filesystem on /dev/sda?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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id that but then it wouldn't mount.
ive returned the drive though. im just gonna go with usb instead. i know my usb stuff works great.
thanks for your help though. |
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ckdake
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That return was pretty quick  If you feel like trying firewire again later just post back here. I spent way too much time trying to get my stuff working and can probably help you out. Party on with that USB tho.
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| fwiw, i find that it's easier and cheaper to just get a regular harddrive and put it in an enclosure yourself. Oxford chips have given me no trouble. |
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jere890
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| ckdake wrote: | | That return was pretty quick If you feel like trying firewire again later just post back here. I spent way too much time trying to get my stuff working and can probably help you out. Party on with that USB tho. |
well i spent 3 days on it to no avail so i was able to convince the guys at the store i hadnt used it....even though the windows fs was no longer on it
ah well, thanks for your help |
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Hi,
I'm trying to get a hardrive working as external firewire too.
I'm using the 2.4.22-rc2 kernel.
I compiled the modules ohci1394 and sbp2 into the kernel.
I can use firewire cdroms/dvds, even burn cds and dvds, but I'm not able to get a hd working.
I used the rescan-scsi-bus Skript from Kurt Garloff to find the devices. And all firewire devices have been found, but the harddrives does not work. I get /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd for the firewire hd's, but the partitions are missing.
Some information that could be of interest
cat /proc/scsi/sbp2_0/2
Host scsi2 : SBP-2 IEEE-1394 (ohci1394)
Module options :
max_speed : S800
max_sectors : 255
serialize_io : no
exclusive_login : yes
Attached devices :
[Channel: 00, Id: 00, Lun: 00] Direct-Access GENESYS Virtual Device
[Channel: 00, Id: 01, Lun: 00] Direct-Access GENESYS Virtual Device
[Channel: 00, Id: 02, Lun: 00] CD-ROM CREATIVE DVD5240E-1
[Channel: 00, Id: 03, Lun: 00] CD-ROM _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A
scanning with the skript of Kurt gives the following result:
Scanning for device 2 0 0 0 ...
OLD: Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: GENESYS Model: Virtual Device Rev: 0.01
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Scanning for device 2 0 1 0 ...
OLD: Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00
Vendor: GENESYS Model: Virtual Device Rev: 0.01
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Scanning for device 2 0 2 0 ...
OLD: Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
Vendor: CREATIVE Model: DVD5240E-1 Rev: 1.30
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Scanning for device 2 0 3 0 ...
OLD: Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00
Vendor: _NEC Model: DVD_RW ND-1300A Rev: 1.08
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Because the case is a combo-box and alows to run it as usb too, I tried it as usb too. Usb works stable, but to slow -  probably because the usb controler is very old.
Would be nice if someone could help me out. |
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When you plug in the drive what shows up in your dmesg?
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ckdake
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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For one thing, you have | Quote: | | eth1394: eth1: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (ohci1394) |
If you aren't using this I would disable it. I seem to remember it giving me some problems, but if I remember correctly my computer wouldn't even boot last time I tried a kernel with that on.
Also, can you boot up your computer with the harddrive unplugged and then plug it in? It's a little hard to figure out whats going on.
Do you have two cd-roms or is your computer just "seeing" everything twice?
Do you have SCSI emulation support turned on in your kernel where all of the normal hard disk controller options are?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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I have two SCSI-HD's and two SCSI-CDROM's on an adaptec controller.
Then I have also 2 HD's extern firewire and one DVD-ROM extern firewire and one DVD+-RW extern firewire. And only the 2 HD's extern firewire are making trubble.
I'm going to make a new boot.messages in half hour after eating.
Done.
Firewire pluggid in while booting:
http://palminator.i-networx.de/boot.messages
Firewire not plugged in while booting:
http://palminator.i-networx.de/boot2.messages |
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ckdake
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Theres still lots of stuff going on. To narrow things down, try booting up with no firewire devices attached. check your dmesg, then plug in one of the firewire harddrives and check your dmesg after that.
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ckdake
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Sorry, I'm not being too clear.
1. unplug all firewire things
2. boot up the computer
3. check what the last part of dmesg is
4. plug in one firewire hard drive
5. check dmesg again and post back here what lines show up that were a result of plugging in the one harddrive while the computer was already booted up.
Your other dmesg outputs are helpful somewhat, but it is hard to tell what is just the ieee1394 hardware initializing and what is the actual hard drive trying to show up.
Also, any word on turning off ieee1394 networking if you aren't using it?
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Here you go
http://palminator.i-networx.de/boot4.messages
http://palminator.i-networx.de/boot5.messages
and the difference is:
| Code: | scsi singledevice 0 0 0 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 3 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 4 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 5 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 7 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 0 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 1 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 2 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 3 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 4 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 5 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 6 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 7 0
ieee1394: ConfigROM quadlet transaction error for node 0-01:1023
ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and resetting...
ieee1394: ConfigROM quadlet transaction error for node 0-00:1023
ieee1394: ConfigROM quadlet transaction error for node 0-01:1023
ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and resetting...
scsi2 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices
ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device
ieee1394: sbp2: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400] - Max payload [2048]
ieee1394: Node added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[0001a3000005f4d3]
ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023
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I also tried to run the skript rescan-scsi-bus.sh
http://palminator.i-networx.de/rescan-scsi-bus.sh
and thats what happend then
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scsi singledevice 0 0 0 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 3 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 4 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 5 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 7 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 0 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 1 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 2 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 3 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 4 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 5 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 6 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 7 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 0 0
Vendor: GENESYS Model: Virtual Device Rev: 0.01
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi disk sdc at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
SCSI device sdc: 1 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB)
/dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0:scsi2: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, lun 0, CDB: 0x28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00
Current sd08:20: sns = 70 3
ASC=3a ASCQ= 0
Raw sense data:0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
I/O error: dev 08:20, sector 0
scsi2: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, lun 0, CDB: 0x28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00
Current sd08:20: sns = 70 3
ASC=3a ASCQ= 0
Raw sense data:0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
I/O error: dev 08:20, sector 0
scsi2: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, lun 0, CDB: 0x28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00
Current sd08:20: sns = 70 3
ASC=3a ASCQ= 0
Raw sense data:0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
I/O error: dev 08:20, sector 0
I/O error: dev 08:20, sector 0
I/O error: dev 08:20, sector 0
ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed.
I/O error: dev 08:20, sector 0
unable to read partition table
scsi singledevice 2 0 1 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 2 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 3 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 4 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 5 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 6 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 7 0
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ckdake
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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hmm.
where you have | Code: | Attached scsi disk sdc at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
SCSI device sdc: 1 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB)
/dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0:scsi2: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, lun 0, CDB: 0x28 00 |
it should look like this (with the numbers different of course) | Code: | Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
SCSI device sda: 39062520 512-byte hdwr sectors (20000 MB)
sda: test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 |
This says to me that most likely linux isn't liking the firewire controller in your hard drive. however there are a few other things...
1. Do you use iee1394 networking? (if not try with that off in the kernel, actually if you do just turn it off to see if that is the problem..)
2. Do you have SCSI emulation support turned on under the ATA drivers in the kernel you are using?
3. Have the hard drives worked on other operating systems on this computer or on other computers?
4. What type of partition table and file system are on the harddrives and do you have support for the both of these compiled into your kernel?
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1. Do you use iee1394 networking? (if not try with that off in the kernel, actually if you do just turn it off to see if that is the problem..)
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That's what I'm going to do next. And I think I have dma turned on for firewire. I will remove that to.
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2. Do you have SCSI emulation support turned on under the ATA drivers in the kernel you are using?
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SCSI emulation support is compiled into the kernel
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3. Have the hard drives worked on other operating systems on this computer or on other computers?
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Yes, the hard drives worked in this system. They worked fine as they were plugged directly in the IDE Bus.
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4. What type of partition table and file system are on the harddrives and do you have support for the both of these compiled into your kernel?
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I think the answer is a yes, because of question 3, but I'm uncertain because you probably have a reason to ask it. |
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ckdake
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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I couldn't get my iPod working for the longest time in linux because its partition table is an apple partiton table and i didnt have support for that. Check out 2.6 kernel -> file systems -> partition type selection. turn on advance partition type selection and turn on any of those you think might help. Linux is ok with the default fdisk partition type and whatever windows should use by default, but depending on how things were set up before, it might be something else. There is probably no need to worry about filesystems until the hard drive shows up as actually having space on it. heh.
I forgot about turning of DMA. that might be it too..
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I forgot about turning of DMA. that might be it too..
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I only turned off the DMA option for sdb2, should I disable it somewhere else too?
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I now tried it without phys DMA support for SBP2 and ieee1394 network, but it does not change anything.
Next stop: kernel with all partition types.
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That changed something. But it still does not work.
Now I get this from dmesg
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scsi singledevice 0 0 0 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 3 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 4 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 5 0
scsi singledevice 0 0 7 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 0 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 1 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 2 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 3 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 4 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 5 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 6 0
scsi singledevice 1 0 7 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 0 0
Vendor: GENESYS Model: Virtual Device Rev: 0.01
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi disk sdc at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
SCSI device sdc: 1 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB)
/dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: I/O error: dev 08:20, sector 0
I/O error: dev 08:20, sector 0
unable to read partition table
scsi singledevice 2 0 1 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 2 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 3 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 4 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 5 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 6 0
scsi singledevice 2 0 7 0
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I have tried to use fdisk on the hd, but the result is still the same:
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bash-2.05b# fdisk /dev/sdc
Unable to open /dev/sdc
bash-2.05b# fdisk /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
Unable to open /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
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ckdake
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| Quote: | | I only turned off the DMA option for sdb2, should I disable it somewhere else too? |
That is the only place that should matter. As far as I remember that should be the only place dma has anything to do with scsi/sdb2/1394 stuff.
The main symptom of the problem is definitely this line: | Quote: | | SCSI device sdc: 1 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB) |
It is saying that your device has no capacity. Do you know what chipset is in your firewire harddrive?
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| I would say it is a genesys chipset. |
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Any more details on what type of genesys chipset? How about a model number of the hard drive or the case?
Checking out http://www.linux1394.org/ I couldn't find anything abotu Genesys on there. Probably a Texas Instruments chipset but it could be something else.
here is someone using debian that speaks french that has the same problem: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2003/debian-user-french-200312/msg01699.html No follow up posts to that one but it might be worth an email to see if they ever resolved their problem.
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oh yeah. I also dug around in the kernel source code and couldn't find anything that mentioned genesys.
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Any more details on what type of genesys chipset? How about a model number of the hard drive or the case?
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The case is a mapower case.
There is a chip with
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AGERE
FW802B
57508433
0345T
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and anotherone with
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GL711FW
0343MGNLS-04a
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but I don't know what that means.
I found the error. Wasn't anything about the software. I wrongly assumed that the harddrive jumper settings were correct because the usb functionality did work, but the jumper setting was incorrect. The hdd had to be set as master.
Now the log locks much better.
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Vendor: IC35L060 Model: AVER07-0 Rev: 0.01
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi disk sdc at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
SCSI device sdc: 120103200 512-byte hdwr sectors (61493 MB)
/dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0:<7>ldm_validate_partition_table(): Found an MS-DOS partition table, not a dynamic disk.
p1 p2 < p5 p6 p7 p8 >
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but the second hdd still gives me a headache
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Vendor: IC35L120 Model: AVV207-0 Rev: 0.01
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi disk sdd at scsi2, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
SCSI device sdd: 241254720 512-byte hdwr sectors (123522 MB)
/dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target1/lun0:<7>ldm_validate_partition_table(): Found an MS-DOS partition table, not a dynamic disk.
p1
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palminator
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:04 am Post subject: |
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Is there a way to avoid the rescan-scsi-bus.sh? That is, do you know how to setup hotplug for firewire?
Hotplug is set to default:
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[bash-2.05b# rc-update show
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hotplug | default
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And thank you very much for the help so far, you helped me big time. I couldn't have done it without you. |
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ckdake
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:09 am Post subject: |
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I never used the rescan shell script. I think once I got it all working they worked fine just booting up the system with them plugged in. I don't even recall using hotplug.
Stoupid jumpers. First time i took apart a computer to replace a hard drive... definitely ended up having to pay someone to fix the jumpers... heh.
If i am reading things correctly, "Agere FW802B" is your chipset for future reference. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=agere+FW802B&btnG=Google+Search
(one thing that may be interesting: http://www.linux1394.org/view_device.php?id=593 If that is your drive/case (i can't tell from the numbers you found) those settings for sb2 may be helpful)
It looks like all of the drive sizes are showing up now. Is the first one working perfectly? What happens when you try to mount the second one?
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