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Kevin72594
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 Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:46 pm Post subject: ATI Radeon 9200 performance? |
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What kind of performance should I be getting out of this card? I used the ATI faq to install and, I admit that I don't know what some of the options meant when doing the config,  but the ones that I didn't know I just left at defaults. It doesn't seem like I'm getting nearly as good performance as I should be, things such as GL visualizations and screen savers run VERY slowly. I'd like to know what kind of things to do to check performance and what kind of performance I should be getting, thanks  |
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Kevin72594
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| can anyone help me out? thanks |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have the 3d accelerated drivers?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I emerged ati-drivers and used fglrxconfig to make the config file, but like I said, I didn't know what some of the options in there meant. If this doesn't answer your question then please explain to me how to find out. I'm a little bit of a noob, especially when it comes to video. thanks |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | [washu:~] chris$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes <<<<<
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
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What do you get?
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Kevin72594
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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here's the out put of glxinfo:
| Code: | kevin@Gentoo kevin $ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess
visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
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0x23 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None
0x24 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 1 0 None
0x25 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
0x26 24 tc 1 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
0x27 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None
0x28 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 1 0 None
0x29 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
0x2a 24 dc 1 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, that guide isn't entirely appropriate for use with the ati-drivers. If you enable the Direct Rendering Manager kernel option, it can stop the drivers from working. Make sure you've done "opengl-update ati", and that the "fglrx" module is loaded before you start X, along with the kernel AGP modules (load fglrx after the the kernel modules).
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Kevin72594
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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what kernel modules should I have compiled?
edit sorry, I only thought there was one new response I'll go through that howto and I won't enable Direct Rendering Manager |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I have kernel version 2.4.22, drm is good? so should I enable drm pick the ATI Radeon option and then make an XF86Config file using the XF86config program and then look through it and make sure everythings right? or should I use ati-drivers and use the fglrx-config program to make the config file and then just tweak that one? or am I just totally confused? if I am totally confused, I'm sorry but maybe I'll need some more thorough help.. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Its been awhile since I've done this so I'm a little hazy on some things.
Check the other post I linked you to. I just gave a response to the other guy that will get you going. I really have no idea about fglrx-config at the moment. Maybe it will come back to me. After you get all the components working OK, I'll post relevant sections of my config file for you. (remind me if I forget)
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| I've tried just about everything I've found in all the links I've gotten and anythign that I could think of and I just can't get Direct Rendering working. when I run "glxinfo | grep rendering" I get a line that says DirectRendering = no any ideas? where is this stuff in my config file? do you want me to post my config file? thanks |
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See if you get anything. Are the modules inserted? Do a lsmod for us. Also, take a look for warnings and errors in your XFree86.0.log file. We'll get this sorted out eventally.[/code]
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:14 am Post subject: |
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There is no output on the dmesg one, here's the output of lsmod:
| Code: | kevin@Gentoo kevin $ lsmod
Module Size Used by Tainted: P
fglrx 174216 0
snd-pcm-oss 39460 50
snd-mixer-oss 13328 0 [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-intel8x0 20036 50 (autoclean)
snd-ac97-codec 42968 0 (autoclean) [snd-intel8x0]
snd-pcm 69408 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0]
snd-mpu401-uart 4128 0 (autoclean) [snd-intel8x0]
snd-rawmidi 15328 0 (autoclean) [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-page-alloc 6644 0 (autoclean) [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm]
snd-seq-oss 28416 0 (unused)
snd-seq-midi-event 4160 0 [snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq 44976 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-timer 16932 0 [snd-pcm snd-seq]
snd-seq-device 4212 0 [snd-rawmidi snd-seq-oss snd-seq]
snd 36644 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-timer snd-seq-device]
printer 7616 0
usb-ohci 20680 0 (unused)
usbcore 67008 1 [printer usb-ohci]
nvnet 26208 1
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and I'll post all the errors/warnings in the log file: | Code: |
(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
(WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported
(EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"
(EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe0ab8000 at 0x4023b000
(WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
(WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! *
(WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
(WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) *
(WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available *
(WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* *
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the part that's set off on the bottom was all together, it seems like the important stuff, however I dont' know what it means, thanks[/code] |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Ok, you need to insert your modules (this is why I hate modules). FYI, I have no idea what "fglrx" is/does so someone should chime in on that one. Edit the module autoload file for your kernel version. For 2.4.x it should be:
/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4
You'll need to add the names of your agp and driver modules. Mine looks like this:
Make sure you have the modules init scritpt set to run on boot:
| Code: | | /sbin/rc-update add modules default |
Then if it doesnt work, post the same things again.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:52 am Post subject: |
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@CMI: fglrx is the ATI driver module, and, as I said before, the kernel DRM or xfree-drm modules are not compatible with it. If he loads the "radeon" module, the fglrx module will thereafter refuse to load. If he loads fglrx first, then radeon, I think it would load, but wouldn't give 3D acceleration.
@Kevin72594: if the 9200 is supported by the standard radeon DRM driver, you can either use it, or you can use the ati-drivers, but not both at the same time
Choice #1 - DRM: follow the guide CMI posted, using the "radeon" driver. In this case, you do not need the fglrx module and can unmerge the ATI drivers.
Choice #2 - ATI driver: get rid of xfree-drm if you've emerged it (emerge -C xfree-drm). In your kernel config, select the appropriate AGP options (/dev/agpgart support + support for your motherboard) and build it as a module. Make sure "Direct Rendering Manager" is not selected. When you've recompiled your kernel + rebooted, load the agpgart module, then load the fglrx module. Run fglrxconfig if you need to, then do "opengl-update ati" and start X. If you want to add the modules to your modules.autoload/kernel-2.4 file, be sure to add them in the order
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| ok, thank you, I think i want to use the ati drivers, I am on my way to school right now but I'll try it as soon as I get home, thanks |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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no luck so far you guys  I'll try using the standard radeon DRM driver, any more ideas would be nice, I'm still getting the same warnings and errors in the log file, it doesn't make very much sense to me, what do these two lines mean?
| Code: | (EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"
(EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
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thanks for all your help so far, I hope we can get this figured out |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Confirm that the modules are inserted with lsmod so we can eliminate that. I googled and got this:
http://odin.prohosting.com/wedge01/gentoo-radeon-faq.html#4_agpenomem
Edit: I think we should take a look at Wedge's sig
Edit2: | Quote: | http://www.wlug.org.nz/RadeonNotes:
The problem is well documented - basically, you don't have correct AGPGART support. The way I solved this on LinuxKernel2.6 was to make sure UseInternalAGPGART was set to no in the XF86Config file and rebooting - if at any stage the fglrx AGPGART has loaded, you're shit out of luck. (Ask dmesg( ) |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I fixed it the problem was that fglrx was with agpgart, I had to set UseInternalAGPGART to no! Thank you so much! |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thats a great page wedge has there. We should get the forum admins to hack that code so a link to that page is auto-replied to every post relating to X
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Great to hear it's working Kevin72594, and it's nice to see the FAQ is actually helping people
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