Opera Slow with Forums?

klieber · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:33 pm Post subject:

Is *anyone* seeing this problem on a browser other than Opera? I've been using Opera all afternoon on both Linux and Windows. I've posted messages, read private messages, browsed, surfed and moderated, all without one single problem.

Obviously there's a problem somewhere, but I'll be damned if I have the slightest idea where. There has to be some sort of common feature or setting between all of you that are seeing the problem that the rest of us don't have. If anyone has any ideas, feel free to share them. (rac's question about keepalives is a valid one -- anyone know the answer?)

--kurt
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shakti · Guru Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 358 Location: omnipresent

it might be a coinsidence (spelling?) but i just erased all my stored cookies and now it works fine??? maybe someone else try this...
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klieber · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:47 pm Post subject:

Folks --

Poking around, I've found some interesting things. grep'ing the apache error logs for the IP addresses of the folks who have reported the problem, in most cases, the IPs all have the same error in the log:

pjp · Administrator Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20485

Clearing the cache and cookies didn't help me.
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rac · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:53 pm Post subject:

Too bad searching for stuff containing "pipe" and "organ" produces so many false positives. Is there any consistency as to what types of URLs (PHP, images, etc.) the broken clients were trying to access, or is URL info not kept in your error log?
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klieber · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:57 pm Post subject:

shakti · Guru Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 358 Location: omnipresent

i am noticing 66.250.107.251 (resolves to gentoo) be blocked at ports 35xxx tcp by my firewall? maybe we are loocking in the wrong place?
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shakti · Guru Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 358 Location: omnipresent

on another note i ve diabled cookies and doing this with images on in opera now...
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klieber · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: firewall

pjp · Administrator Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20485

I disabled images and like others, it briefly worked after I enabled images again. Playing arond in the Preferences window, here's something to try. Under Preferences -> Network Options, I increased Maximum connections to a server from 8 to 30, and upped Maximum total connections from 20 to 30. Opera seems to be fine now. I browsed for a while without problems, will test some more. Incidentally, it is much, much faster than Galeon

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klieber · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:05 pm Post subject:

Sigh -- can folks who were having problems with Opera please give it another go now? I'm going to laugh if I've just fixed the problem, but we'll see...

--kurt
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pjp · Administrator Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20485

I put the settings I modified back the way they were, restarted Opera, and no problems.
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scottro · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:33 pm Post subject:

Yup, I just went on in opera, to see how it was going to work. Everything seems fine.

What did you do?

klieber · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:44 pm Post subject:

While I was grepping the logs, I noticed the hit log was right about 2GB. Then, I noticed nothing had been logged to it in the last few days. (2GB file size limit. makes sense)

So, I simply rotated the logs and that seems to have cleared up the problem. No idea why that affected only Opera, but whatever. It works now.

Now I just need to figure out why the logs weren't getting rotated in the first place. That's a separate issue, however.

If anyone else is having problems, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll consider this issue closed.

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scottro · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 10:19 pm Post subject:

Well Klieber, on behalf of all the opera users, I thank you. This is part of what is so good about Gentoo. Problem was mentioned when--yesterday? Despite all the things you have to do,
(AND--that you don't like opera) you went to great effort for Gentoo users. And, none of us is going to even pay you (though since we're both in Manhattan, I will happily buy you a beer.)

Thank you and congratulations on quickly fixing it rather than telling us to stop whining and use mozilla

Scott

klieber · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 10:47 pm Post subject:

scottro · Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 11:00 pm Post subject:

Consider it done--I'll either pm you or make arrangements on IRC this week if I see you there.

Scott

dunbar · n00b Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 45

Nice detective work, working fine right now.

I conclude from this episode that the broken pipe can be caused by a server side problem (your log was not being updated.... why?). Pipes are connections to 2 locations. Makes sense, IMO, that either end of the connection can lose the stream.

So many other forums would rant (and have ranted) that the 'users software' or the 'clients firewall' or 'anything but the server' fudged the stream, again, thanks for looking into the server side of the stream.

[rant] nyahh nyahh, Opera was not the cause, nyaa nyahh; Opera was not the cause, Opera was not.......... [/rant]

But then again, why did Mozilla and (gulp) IE manage to live through the problem? Oops, fault tolerance. Uh-oh.