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Remillard Apprentice
Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 200 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:44 am Post subject: To 2.6 or not to 2.6? |
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Howdy,
I'm still collecting mass amounts of information about the install while I wait for the bloody box to show up. So today I'm considering the 2.6.1 kernel issue.
Coming from a blank harddrive with untested hardware (though nothing TOO exotic) would it be better to get a standard 2.4 kernel working, with X, and other miscellaneous environments working fine, and THEN try to migrate?
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Is it so much a hassle to migrate from 2.4 to 2.6 that I will be happier just starting with the newer kernel?
Like I said, the hardware isn't too exotic. As far as I can tell, the only issue may be nVidia drivers, or the madwifi drivers. The soundcard is in the sblive family, and the eth0 port is pretty basic.
Does anyone have any opinions or experience to share on this one?
Thanks!
Remillard _________________ This signature is printed with 100% post-consumer recycled electrons. |
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azlan Guru
Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 381 Location: Seattle WA USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:05 am Post subject: |
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if you would have done a search on this subject you would have found a whole bunch of threads.
basically.....2.6 rocks! _________________ there is no crazy, only violet and non violet.. |
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Neje n00b
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 71 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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I'd say go for the 2.6 kernel straight away. 2.6 kernels do some stuff a little differently, so if you can avoid having to "migrate", I say go for it. You know you want 2.6, so why wait I hear the new nvidia drivers are 2.6-ready, too.
Neje _________________ "It's some kind of electronic computer."
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floffe Guru
Joined: 24 Nov 2003 Posts: 414 Location: Linköping, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Neje wrote: | I'd say go for the 2.6 kernel straight away. 2.6 kernels do some stuff a little differently, so if you can avoid having to "migrate", I say go for it. You know you want 2.6, so why wait I hear the new nvidia drivers are 2.6-ready, too.
Neje |
In portage, the nvidia-drivers have been working with 2.6 since I migrated, around the 15th Dec (2.6.0-test11). Someone was nice enough to update the ebuild to include a patch, and then it worked |
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rafael Apprentice
Joined: 22 Jul 2002 Posts: 267
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see no reason why you should hang on to 2.4. My life's been basically much better after I migrated to 2.6 |
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Suicidal l33t
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 959 Location: /dev/null
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Id say go 4 it. The biggest difference I have noticed is the performance whil compiling. In 2.4 you could really tell that a compile was going on in 2.6 the only time you can tell is if you try to play an open gl game. In 2.6 I am constantly compiling, browsing and listening to xmms at the same time.
So like stated earlier in this thread 2.6 basically rocks, It gets even better when compiled against 2.6 headers, although it still does break some builds |
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Remillard Apprentice
Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 200 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:43 am Post subject: |
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azlan wrote: | if you would have done a search on this subject you would have found a whole bunch of threads.
basically.....2.6 rocks! |
Thanks a lot guys. I appreciate the feedback. I HAVE been watching the 2.6.1 love release threads and the 2.4 to 2.6 HOWTO Documentation, but I hadn't seen any evaluations based on whether it was good for the first time install, versus trying to get something completely stable first and then moving slowly.
I think I'll give it a shot. I've always got 2.4 to fall back on if I really get stuck.
Thanks!
Remillard _________________ This signature is printed with 100% post-consumer recycled electrons. |
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Crashed_Again n00b
Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 45
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:43 am Post subject: |
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If their was any doubt as to move to 2.6 from 2.4, this article should persuade you to go 2.6. |
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inode77 Veteran
Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 1303 Location: Heart of Europe
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Did you see (I used the offical 1.4 x86 stage tarball) that for bootstrapping (stage1 to stage2) there is a bootstrap.sh and a bootstrap-2.6.sh script. They have a difffernt size but I didn't look @ the details. I installed with the 2.6 script because I assumed if I'm only going to use the 2.6.x kernel I don't need the other scritpt. I worded, that's what I can say on my side (gentoo-dev-2.6.2-rc1 kernel). There are some differnces I noticed in the /etc directory concerning modules and their conf but nothing else. Maybe a diff and some time to look a the differences could help to make a decision. |
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moby dick Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 78 Location: Germnany / Frankfurt a. Main
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:28 am Post subject: |
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I moved from 2.4 to 2.6 last night and it was one of the easiest, fastest and nicest migration I ever did. If it is not too late I recommend you to use the 2.6. So you won't have to trouble with the problems of 2.4 AND the diffrent (but much smaller) problems in 2.6.
Try the gentoo-devel-kernel-2.6.2. It is pretty nice and works fine with the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx patch.
It has even support for the nforce2 chipset (finally!!!! )
good luck
M. _________________ Athlon 64X2 4200+, MSI K8N SLI (nForce4 chipset), 2x512MB DIMM, MSI GeForce 6800 GT |
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troyt n00b
Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 61 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: Motherboard counts too |
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I'd just like to chime in and say that if you have a motherboard with the nForce2 chipset, 2.6 is the way to go. I started using the 2.6 beta kernels just to get away from the grief I was having with v2.4 and my nForce2 chipset. |
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