Opera - static or shared?

Chewi · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:59 am Post subject: Opera - static or shared?

I find that Opera isn't as fast as I think it should be and I've been wondering about why this is. And then I recalled that they offer it in both static and shared forms. So I checked this out and us Gentoo peeps are using the static version. According to the ebuild this is for simplicity. Going to Help -> About tells me that it's using Qt 3.0.5. We're on Qt 3.2.3 now and this will have been compiled optimally. Is it likely that using the shared version will make a signifcant speed difference? I know this may raise issues for some people. Some people may not want to install Qt. There is a USE flag for Qt so perhaps this could be used to decide between the static and shared versions.

Discuss.

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Bonkie · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:21 am Post subject:

Really ? static isn't listed as a USE var when doing emerge -pv.

I tend to just edit the ebuild and change version to install to shared-gcc-3.3 or whatever it should be. And oh yeah, shared is faster

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Chewi · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:41 am Post subject:

I don't have static turned on and Bonkie is right. I guess static may be a better USE flag to decide it with. Anymore opinions? Perhaps I'll modify the ebuild later, submit it to bugzilla and see what they think.

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I always modify the ebuild to download shared :] I mean, why use static in the first place, when you typically have a newer version of Qt installed anyway (Opera static uses something like 3.05). Fonts tend to look nicer with shared, probably because of the newer version of Qt.

nevynxxx · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:47 am Post subject:

Could someone please post a modified ebuild(or link) for the shared version, it would be helpfull to see.

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gmichels · Guru Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Posts: 480 Location: Brazil

I agree with the static use flag to decide the version.

Bonkie · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject:

@newynxxx:

Edit the ebuild, /usr/portage/net-www/opera/opera-7.xx.ebuild with xx your version of course, and change these lines:

nevynxxx · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:50 pm Post subject:

@Bonkie Brilliant thanks, wont coping the /usr/portage/net-www/opera/opera-7.xx.ebuild to /usr/local/portage/net-www/opera/opera-7.xx.ebuild then changing it do the trick of not getting it wiped out by emerge sync?
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Bonkie · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:14 pm Post subject:

yes, that is your default portage overlay directory

But some prefer it to keep it somewhere else, that's why I mention it that way :wink:

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Chewi · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject:

Okay I'm making an ebuild that does both right now!

nevynxxx · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:25 pm Post subject:

Chewi · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:37 pm Post subject:

Okay I've made an ebuild that uses the static USE flag! I haven't dabbled much with ebuilds before so tell me if this looks right. It works for me but I'm not so sure about PPC/Sparc users. If it's okay then I'll go and stick it on Bugzilla. And it does seem that little bit snappier now! The default fonts actually look nice too.

Bonkie · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject:

Looks good
Except i tend to use the one linked against gcc-3.2. Cant really recall what was different about 5-shared-qt ...

ill test the ebuild as soon as i can

@newynxx: yes i redigest, cause you modified the ebuild to download a different file then before, so it should complain about it if you dont digest actually
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Chewi · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject:

I was wondering about that so I checked what versions get downloaded from the download page. The Red Het 9 download links to 5-shared-qt and the Red Hat 8 / SuSE 8.1 / Mandrake 9 download links to 4-shared-qt. We're running the latest stuff so I guess we want 5-shared-qt? Unfortunately the PPC and Sparc versions have only been linked against gcc-2.95.

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

I think we should use 5-shared-qt, as it is for gcc 3.2.2, and I (and most gentoo users, I think) am on 3.2.3... also, I've just edited the 7.50-alpha (which I've been using for some time, and have to say is great!), and you only have to change 1-static-qt to 5-static-qt, you can leave source addresses the same... now I'll close opera to see if it really is faster and looks better :-D

Then I might try emerge qt-3.3.0 with the icc flag, just to get things really fast :twisted:

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Chewi · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 7:08 pm Post subject:

I tried that Alpha version and thought it was bloody awful but each to their own. At least it was only an Alpha version.

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

there is a new flag in the alpha ebuild, if you don't want to install IRC/Mail clients....
if you customise opera 7.50 (particularly that new, obtrusive bar) it's really neat... and the rss feeds are cool, if not particularly useful...
oh, and I think it actually is a bit faster, loading especially... but it might just be that I was hoping so hard for a noticeable improvement that I just made it up... :-D

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Also, one thing I notice most people don't do: skin opera!! Right click on a toolbar and 'get skins'; I'm using Breeze II and love it, though there are other cool ones like Tob's Theatre..
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Chewi · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject:

Yeah mine's skinned, no worries.

Right well I'm getting impatient so I'm gonna toddle off to Bugzilla right now.

Chewi · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject:

"Bug" reported here.

Bonkie · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject:

Great workd

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beowulf · Apprentice Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 225

Thanks Chewi for the ebuild. However, I can't digest it... copied it from bugzilla.... and received this error:

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