How to transfer files from windows-box to linux-box

[Zu`]

[JukkaR]

[rizzo]

Yes that file is wrong.

The 127.0.0.1 line is fine. The second line should resolve to what your actual resolvable machine name is. By that address I am understanding that your gentoo box has a static IP on the internet and is not behind a NAT router?

So an example would be:

[kengu]

wouldn't it just be easier to use FTP?

[n0n]

Possibly. You've still got to set up the FTP server, though, and FTP sends passwords in plaintext, which makes them very vulnerable to sniffing. And while that might not be a concern in this case (I don't know whether these machines are on a public network or not), I feel that it's a good idea to get into the "habit" of security early, so you don't have to re-learn things when it does become an issue.

That said, FTP certainly does have uses. I've got proftpd installed on my Gentoo box which I occasionally turn on so that my girlfriend can transfer some files from her Mac (os9) which I haven't tried to integrate any other way. I protect the port with iptables so that it's only accessible from her computer, and it's just an anonymous site, so there's no passwords sniffable anywhere.

That said, (*grin*) this is by far the most problems I've ever had setting up SSH. Typically I just install openssh and the client wherever it needs to go, and things just work. :)

[rizzo]

I think the fact that he cannot even ssh to his box should be the main focus now.

Please confirm that you have ssh running

[scheuri]

[rizzo]

Mainly because of the fact that I don't think this kid has any clue about networking given the current state of affairs. So I would like to set him off on the right path with ssh/scp rather than the VERY insecure and VERY exploitable telnet and ftp.

Guessing from his previous post, I interpret that his linux box is indeed directly on the internet and so I would NEVER telnet/ftp to it. Especially now that he has posted his IP and any one of a million trolls is sniffing traffic as we speak.

[scheuri]

[rizzo]

Granted I don't _know_ for sure, but I'm assuming from his hosts file that he posted above.

I don't think FTP would be any easier than ssh/scp. I didn't have any trouble getting it going.

[JukkaR]

First the problem was that there wasn't even sshd running on my machine. And the fact is that I don't know anything about these network issues. What there should be in the etc/hosts file below line "127.0.0.1 localhost"?
There's currently only mymachine.mydomain.com mymachine, since I dont know what IP-address there should be. And in pscp, is it correct when I type pscp file.txt root@mymachine.mydomain.com:/home ? Currently, I can login to my own box, typing ssh root@127.0.0.1 .

[rizzo]

Alright I think we need more background.

I was under the impression that you have two machines. One is a windows machine, and the other is your new gentoo machine. I was also under the impression that both machines were directly connected to the internet, that both had real (i.e. resolving) IP addresses.

Please tell us how you are connected to the internet. DSL, Cable, dial-up? Do you have a router that shares the internet connection doing NAT?

This is not a problem with ssh at all. I would bet this bag of pretzels that I'm enjoying (honey mustard) that this is a network configuration problem and we'll do our best to educate you on such matters. Give us as much information as possible about your network setup and internet connection and we should be able to start.

[JukkaR]

[n0n]

Okay, check this . . . On your Linux box, make sure networking works (ping some addresses, maybe visit a webpage or two). Then get your IP address ("ifconfig eth0" will tell you this, among many other ways). Then, on your windows box, do:

[rizzo]

Alright then I'm going to assume that you have no idea what IP addresses are, and that you have been interacting with your windows boxes only through the Windows networking crap.

If you want to continue to do this, then samba could do that for you.

If you want to get off the porch and run with the big dogs, continue reading. I'm sure there are a million HOWTOs that explain things, but I'll try to be concise.

I'm assuming that your DSL provider (mine is SBC) gives you only 1 IP address. You need an IP address to be able to do anything on the internet. If you have more than one computer, you use a router to handle this IP address and share it via things like IP Masquerading and Network Address Translation (NAT). If you are interested read this

Now your computers behind the router also have IP addresses, but they have what are called non-resolving IP addresses. There are certain ranges of IP addresses that are reserved for intranet use. I think they are 10.*.*.*, 192.168.*.*, and 172.16.*.*. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Now I'm willing to bet that your router is also DHCP server that is assigning your computers one of these addresses. What you need to know is what address it is assigning you.

So log into your linux box as root and type "ifconfig eth0" and find the "inet addr". That is your IP address for talking between each of your LAN machines. So if your IP is 192.168.0.2, then on your windows box you could type:

[JukkaR]

PROBLEM SOLVED!! Typed ifconfig eth0, took ip-address from there and entered it to pscp - now files are trasfered !! Thank you very much for your patience and help. I really appreciate that.
Edit: Files are not transferd, they are being transfered - it's over 12 gb's of them... It's going to take a while (almost 5h), since the network does only 700 kb/s.

[rizzo]

Ah cool. Sorry if I dumbed it down too much, better safe than sorry.

Anyway like I said ssh/scp is the way to go. NEVER use telnet/ftp if you don't have to. And if you have to, then bitch about it until they put ssh on.

[pilla]

It is also a good idea to disable Protocol 1 in SSHD... it is weak and somebody sniffing your network can get your password, I think. You can do that in /etc/ssh/sshd_config

[rizzo]

Yes I agree I forgot about that. I only use protocol 2.

Thanks B