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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:15 pm    Post subject: hardened-sources vs. selinux-sources Reply with quote

Hi,
I am trying to make a litle security stable server that will be connected to the internet using an ADSL. I was installing gentoo stage1 and now I am about to choose what kernel to use. I was reading the gentoo kernel manual and I would like to know what are the diferences from hardened-sources and selinux-sources? what to choose? My machine will be a all in one server, it will run apache, wu-ftp, samba, and maybe kde becouse I will also use as a workstation some times...... :roll:



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aehm...

the SE-Linux was developed from some guys in the
US-Government, so CIA FBI and so on are included.
The aim was to create a totally secure linux platform...

the "hardened" linux is, as far as i know, patched with
several security-issues and improvements that are tested
and considered rock-hard or at least "less harmful"...

so, chose yourself... i personally would tend to se-linux :-)

But don`t use KDE... it`s totally bloated and maybe a
security-hole... use something small and try to not auto-start
the X-Server at boottime... only if you need it ;-)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SE-Linux: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux

Question: Has SE-Linux been implemented in the X-Server yet?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twilight wrote:
aehm...

the SE-Linux was developed from some guys in the
US-Government, so CIA FBI and so on are included.
The aim was to create a totally secure linux platform...

the "hardened" linux is, as far as i know, patched with
several security-issues and improvements that are tested
and considered rock-hard or at least "less harmful"...

so, chose yourself... i personally would tend to se-linux :-)

But don`t use KDE... it`s totally bloated and maybe a
security-hole... use something small and try to not auto-start
the X-Server at boottime... only if you need it ;-)

Greetings,

twilight


uhh
the CIA/FBI have nothing to do with SELinux, furthermore hardened-sources with USE="selinux" also adds the selinux patches, without it it adds grsec. Hardened-sources also has PaX and some other security extra's. Hardened-sources is strongly recommended over selinux-sources as it can bring much additional benefit/security.
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