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mathey
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 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: EMERGE KDE STLL FAILS - WHY IS THIS NOT FIXED |
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I want to install kde - it fails because of the xine-lib-... dependency
I am trying to do this on a freshly installed version of Gentoo LInux
with 2.4 genkernel (stage3 tarball) ... Ok ? nothing extreme there.
This has been now going on for at least 4 days but I believe the problem has been around for some time.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ????
WHY IS IT NOT POSSIBLE TO EMERGE THE MOST DESKTOP ENV. LINUX CALLS ITS OWN ? Where are the developers/ebuilders/ .. to take care of this ?  |
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caleb
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Because it works fine for the rest of us. Maybe if you explained your problem a little more, and in a more cheerful fashion, you could get some help. |
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PowerFactor
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Maybe you should try searching for a solution to your problem instead of just spouting off. It apears that most people have been able to work around that problem.
And it probably won't get fixed if noone files a bug on it. I didn't see one there when i searched. |
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MaGuS
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: EMERGE KDE STLL FAILS - WHY IS THIS NOT FIXED |
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| mathey wrote: | I want to install kde - it fails because of the xine-lib-... dependency
I am trying to do this on a freshly installed version of Gentoo LInux
with 2.4 genkernel (stage3 tarball) ... Ok ? nothing extreme there.
This has been now going on for at least 4 days but I believe the problem has been around for some time.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ????
WHY IS IT NOT POSSIBLE TO EMERGE THE MOST DESKTOP ENV. LINUX CALLS ITS OWN ? Where are the developers/ebuilders/ .. to take care of this ? |
Did you paid anything for gentoo/linux or do you pay any developer? So stop talking such $&§& and start to fix the problem your self!
Best regards,
Magnus
p.s.: use the search function! |
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Well I've not seen one of these UPPERCASE  threads in a while ..... ho hum 
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mathey
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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CHEERFUL ?????
I am afraid, not.
At any rate, I thought my post was reasonably self-explanatory. I emerged X and then tried to emerge kde. It fails at some pont with an error message refering to xine-lib-1_rc2. If you do a search in this forum, you will of course find that may people either have had or are having trouble emerging xine-lib or kde ( which has xine-lib as a dependency). So this problem is not new. The only "solution" that I found being offered was to lower your CFLAGS. I don't want to. What's the point of using Gentoo Linux if you are not allowed to use slightly aggressive CFLAGS ; mine are :
| Quote: | CFLAGS=" -O2 -march=pentium4 -mcpu=pentium4 -pipe-funroll-loops -fomi-frame-pointer -msse -msse2 -mmmx -mfpmath=sse -fPIC
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I found these somewhere on this forum.
Of course I don't have any clue what they mean but what the heck !
Seriously I believe I found them in a thread on pentium4 optimization and the ones above seemed like a good choice.
Or am I wrong ?
I read somewhere that -fomit-frame-pointer or -fPIC might be the problem, but, again, I wouldn't want to lower my flags unless absolutely necessary. I can't believe that there is not some way around this.
So, any ideas ?
Please !!
 ( see how cheerful I am) |
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Stu L Tissimus
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I REFUSE TO ANSWER BOTH AN UNFRIENDLY MESSAGE AND A GUY WHO DOESN'T SEARCH THE FORUMS
Edit: Just saw the post above mine.
Anyway, this problem is not caused by the Gentoo developers, but by the Xine developers. You only have to lower your CFLAGS while compiling it, then you can go back to your old ones.
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jrz
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sometimes lowering CFLAGS is the only way to get some things to compile
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caleb
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| mathey wrote: | The only "solution" that I found being offered was to lower your CFLAGS. I don't want to. What's the point of using Gentoo Linux if you are not allowed to use slightly aggressive CFLAGS ; mine are :
| Quote: | CFLAGS=" -O2 -march=pentium4 -mcpu=pentium4 -pipe-funroll-loops -fomi-frame-pointer -msse -msse2 -mmmx -mfpmath=sse -fPIC
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You don't get the choice. You're trying to overly optimize the compiler and for this particular package it's not able to meet the optimizations, which is why it's crashing. The bug is in the gcc compiler. If you're interested in fixing it, just browse through the gcc source code and submit your fix to the gcc team.
Your only recourse is to downgrade your cflags, but you only have to do it for this one package.
I bet if you did this:
CFLAGS="" emerge xine-lib
You'd get past your problem, kde would keep on emerging, and you'd be in a much better mood. |
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mathey
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, I tried that. Didn't work. Same error message as before. |
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| can u post the log. |
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mathey
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I don't know how to do that : I haven't yet installed kde/mozila etc. on my laptop, right ? So I am posting these messages using another computer ( running Windows) .
The error message is something like "bla bla blah ... emerge media-libs/xine-lib-1_rc2 failed" - more or less. |
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| mathey wrote: | I don't know how to do that : I haven't yet installed kde/mozila etc. on my laptop, right ? So I am posting these messages using another computer ( running Windows) .
The error message is something like "bla bla blah ... emerge media-libs/xine-lib-1_rc2 failed" - more or less. |
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| mathey wrote: | I don't know how to do that : I haven't yet installed kde/mozila etc. on my laptop, right ? So I am posting these messages using another computer ( running Windows) .
The error message is something like "bla bla blah ... emerge media-libs/xine-lib-1_rc2 failed" - more or less. |
That's not the error. |
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ecatmur
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, I like that attitude: refuses to search, to lower CFLAGS (at first), and regards vital error messages as 'blah blah'.
Anyway, emerge lynx. Or even simpler: take the laptop to the other computer, and copy the error message over. |
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seand
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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wowsers batman!
how about you remove your amazing specialized cflags, make em basic p4 cflags, emerge -e world and give kde another go.
OR
emerge links, and past the error message. or save the error message as a text file, toss it on a webspace someplace and that way we all can check it out...
though its beyond me why someone would want to help someone else who refuses to work with those called to help... |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| Stu L Tissimus wrote: | I REFUSE TO ANSWER BOTH AN UNFRIENDLY MESSAGE AND A GUY WHO DOESN'T SEARCH THE FORUMS
Edit: Just saw the post above mine.
Anyway, this problem is not caused by the Gentoo developers, but by the Xine developers. You only have to lower your CFLAGS while compiling it, then you can go back to your old ones. |
Thats not really true, its not uncommon for ebuilds to downgrade CFLAGS on problem ebuilds (seems like openoffice is like that.) Given the role the Gentoo's developers have put themselves in, it is not beyond their responsibility to do make such fixes. Though its ours, the users, responsibility to politely report such errors...
And as mentioned, this person has some messed up CFLAGS. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:33 am Post subject: |
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The following CFLAGS worked for me:
| Code: | CFLAGS="-march=i686 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
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.... and the moral of the story is ....
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| scoobydu wrote: | | .... and the moral of the story is .... |
caplocks+abusing emoticons+illiteracy=screwed up CFLAGS?
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While emerging kde 3.2 (on a clean gentoo install - no previous kde version installed) I found that it failed to compile on about 3/4 different packages, I fixed these problems by either:
- unmasking a higher version than the one that was failing (older version of package was probably incompatible with the kernel 2.6.3 I was using???)
- or, strange enough just rebooting the machine and rerunning the kde emerge cleared the problem up (no idea why that worked, but it did on a couple of occations) |
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| ardnut wrote: | | - or, strange enough just rebooting the machine and rerunning the kde emerge cleared the problem up (no idea why that worked, but it did on a couple of occations) |
You might wanna check the temperatur of your system in that case... It might be that it get's too hot when compiling... |
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ardnut
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| _Nomad_ wrote: | | ardnut wrote: | | - or, strange enough just rebooting the machine and rerunning the kde emerge cleared the problem up (no idea why that worked, but it did on a couple of occations) |
You might wanna check the temperatur of your system in that case... It might be that it get's too hot when compiling... |
I don't think thats the problem, the machine was compliling for about an hour then failed, I rebooted and it carried on fine for around 10 hours over night, very strange. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| AgentUSA wrote: | The following CFLAGS worked for me:
| Code: | CFLAGS="-march=i686 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
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i too was having the xine-lib problem... the specific cflag that i found that xine-lib was barfing on is "-march=pentium4" or in some peeps case it would be "-mcpu=pentium4" .... I think it's a AMD plot against us P4 users Just lower the cpu/arch type to pentium3 or i686 and it will compile fine. You can switch the cflags back after you emerge xine-lib.... |
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