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widremann
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 5:59 pm    Post subject: What is the 'e' for as in "emerge", "ebuild&q Reply with quote

There's probably a document somewhere, but the idea of having to do some very creative googling to find it is just not that appealing. In the rest of the computer world it stands for "electronic", but that doesn't really make sense in terms of Gentoo. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

electronic makes sense to me

as opposed to e.g. LFS for which you read instructions from a book and build things manually
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you make me think
probably it's a gentoo logo which looks like mirrored 'e'
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, "emerge" is actually a word.
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   1. To rise from or as if from immersion: Sea mammals must emerge periodically to breathe.
   2. To come forth from obscurity: new leaders who may emerge.
   3. To become evident: The truth emerged at the inquest.
   4. To come into existence. See Synonyms at appear.


As for ebuild and the rest, I have no idea. Emerge though, well, just look at the definition, it makes perfect sense as is.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd guess that it started with emerge (like Ian said) and then ebuild == emerge build. Since then everything to do with emerge started with an e-> equery == emerge query.. etc
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assumed that "emerge" < "e-" + "merge", especially since it says "merging such-and-such to /" implying that the actual operation is merging, not emerging as in rising up.

BlackEdder, I like your explanation since it involves a kind of bootstrapping I see often in my linguistical travails.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, look at the fourth definition, "To come into existence."

When I emerge <insert package name here> it "comes into existence" on my computer, because previously there had been an empty (and possibly lonely) void in which there was nothing there. Now there is something there.

Or I've just been reading a bit too much of Douglas Adams lately...
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'ebuild' actually came before 'emerge' -- the e comes from the fact that Daniel Robbins called Gentoo 'Enoch' before it was Gentoo
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eNough already ;)
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