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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:15 am    Post subject: High mem needed in kernel? Reply with quote

hey there all,

i have looked around and cant figure this out. i was talking to an op in a #gentoo irc channel who seemed to know what he was talking about with the 2.6.X line of kernels, but he kept telling me that in this box i am running with 1.5GB of ram, i didnt need high mem set to 4GB in the kernel.

without it set to 4GB, i am limited to gentoo seeing only 1GB, with the 4GB setting i get all 1.5GB. i told him this and he denied it. i asked if there was any harm in setting it to 4GB and he said that i could see performance hits.

anyway, i have it set to 4GB now, should i need this? does this drop performance at all? if i turn it off, is there something else i should set in teh kernel to make the rest of my ram usable? what is the bottom line on that high mem stuff?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
│ If you are compiling a kernel which will never run on a machine with │
│ more than 1 Gigabyte total physical RAM, answer "off" here (default │
│ choice and suitable for most users). This will result in a "3GB/1GB" │
│ split: 3GB are mapped so that each process sees a 3GB virtual memory │
│ space and the remaining part of the 4GB virtual memory space is used │
│ by the kernel to permanently map as much physical memory as │
│ possible. │
│ │
│ If the machine has between 1 and 4 Gigabytes physical RAM, then │
│ answer "4GB" here.

Right from the kernel help in menuconfig :)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well thanks, i will have to present this as evidence. also, anyone know anything about the performance hit he was talking about?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not heard about a peformance hit....my second box has highmem enabled and i've never noticed anything 8)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe there were some oddities when highmem was first added. There is some overhead to the kernel to create the 1G/3G split, etc which might be where he was getting his info. I'm reasonable sure all that was solved pretty early in 2.4.x. This page might shed some light on the overhead of large RAM system. Not as bad as having a mere 2-4GB, but interesting none the less.

http://lwn.net/Articles/39283/

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the clarification, and yes, Giordano's is GREAT pizza up here in teh chicago area kashani. ;D you should try Lou Malnati's too though. ;P
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