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cuban
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 Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject: New to KDE |
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First off let me say this:
I never, ever in my wildest dreams thought I would type "emerge k***". I used to despise KDE so much I wouldn't use any application that started with a K.
Now, I'm installing it on both my workstations. 
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To my problem:
When I add new short cuts to the 'k' menu, they disapear from the menu I put them in (Say: Internet or games) and appear in the lost && found menu. What am I doing wrong?
Also, Is there anyway to remove some of the stuff that is in the K menu? I, for example, don't want bookmarks and things of that nature because I use firebird instead of konquerer.
Thanks for welcoming a new KDE user.
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HermanR
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Also, Is there anyway to remove some of the stuff that is in the K menu? I, for example, don't want bookmarks and things of that nature because I use firebird instead of konquerer. |
Open Kde Control Center, go to Desktop, then Panels. then choose the Menus tab. Then do your thing! 
As to the menu editing, I have no clue. What I put in the menu, stays there! |
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cuban
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:53 am Post subject: |
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Thanks! Any idea about the first question?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| right click the kmenu button and choose menu editor... From there you can cusotmize everythign you need regarding the menus |
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Gavrila
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| cuban wrote: | | Thanks! Any idea about the first question? |
perhaps a permission problem? |
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cuban
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure. The problem is that I use menu editor and the changes don't save, they just get moved to lost and found.
It could be a permissions problem. Where is that data stored? I thought it would be stored in ~/.kde.
Thanks,
Daniel
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morsatrit
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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have you tired
| Code: | emerge --unmerge kde
emerge fluxbox |
just a thought
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cuban
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Did you even read my first post? I said I switched to KDE. Fluxbox was good and all, but I need more than just a window manager.
KDE is what I want to use, and I'd like to figure out my problem.
Thanks,
Daniel
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gwynevans
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, supposedly the user menu settings are in ~/.kde/share/applnk/ but it only looks as if I've got some of the settings there myself. I can't see where my "Development" menu is at all! |
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dbezona
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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The global menu settings are in /usr/kde/3.2/share/applnk, with the ones in ~/.kde/share/applnk being the user settings.
Also, items in lost and found are simply any *.desktop files kde has found in non-kde directories, i.e. /usr/share/applnk, /usr/share/applications, etc.
It does sound like you might have a permissions issue - make sure ~/.kde/share/applnk looks right.
Also, it COULD be a path issue - is KDEDIR set in your environment? Perhaps it's putting the new shortcuts into /usr/share/ instead of /usr/kde/3.2/share/ where kmenu looks for them. Seems like odd behavior, but... |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, kapp finder is a great tool. |
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cuban
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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I have the following as my environment
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KDEDIR=/usr/kde/3.2
KDEDIRS=/usr
KDE_FULL_SESSION=true
KDE_MULTIHEAD=false
KONSOLE_DCOP='DCOPRef(konsole-4211,konsole)'
KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION='DCOPRef(konsole-4211,session-2)'
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Is this correct?
I'm confused, if the root KDE menu is stored somewhere public like that, how do I add and remove things from the menu? I can't imagine that you have to have root access to alter the menu?
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djimenez@calculon djimenez $ ls -l /usr/kde/3.2/share/
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Feb 24 15:34 applications
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Feb 24 17:11 applnk
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Are those correct permissions?
Thanks for the help, I don't want this to be my KDE showstopper.
Daniel
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morsatrit
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:49 am Post subject: |
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settle down Daniel. I was just kidding around. I can understand you want to have a "real" window manager but one day you will understand that minimal is better rather then a bloated POS. But you have your fun and maybe you will learn to take things a little less seriously
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cuban
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I've used fluxbox for almost 2 years. I know what I need
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| morsatrit wrote: | | settle down Daniel. I was just kidding around. I can understand you want to have a "real" window manager but one day you will understand that minimal is better rather then a bloated POS. But you have your fun and maybe you will learn to take things a little less seriously |
others have us have used minimal environments and switched to full desktop environents like KDE. I went from blackbox to waimea to KDE 3.1
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cuban
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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So does anyone have any idea what my issue is? I can't modify my K menu?
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ralph
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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How are you saving the new settings?
If just closing the menu editor and telling it to save the changes doesn't work you could try to save them explicitly (File --> Save) after changing the menu.
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dbezona
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| cuban wrote: |
I'm confused, if the root KDE menu is stored somewhere public like that, how do I add and remove things from the menu? I can't imagine that you have to have root access to alter the menu?
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No - what is supposed to happen is if you make a change to the menu, the user-level stuff is stored in ~/.kde/share/applnk/ , whereas global menu items are stored in /usr/kde/3.x/share/applnk/
The fact that stuff is ending up in Lost and Found suggests that either the menu editor can't write to your ~/.kde directory, or it's putting the new items into /usr/share/applnk for some other reason.
You should be able to fix this manually by copying the .desktop file from wherever it's ending up (likely /usr/share/applnk, or in that neighborhood) into the appropriate place in your ~./kde/share/applnk/ or, if you want the menu item to be available for all users, into /usr/kde/3.x/share/applnk/
Try doing a search for the .desktop file for one of the new menu items you tried to add, to see exactly where it is ending up - it may give a clue. It would be called appname.desktop |
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cuban
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:08 am Post subject: |
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They are all ending up in
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/home/djimenez/.local/share/applications/Mozilla Thunderbird.desktop
/home/djimenez/.local/share/applications/Mozilla Firebird.desktop
/home/djimenez/.local/share/applications/xchat.desktop
/home/djimenez/.local/share/applications/Logjam.desktop
/home/djimenez/.local/share/applications/Mozilla Firefox.desktop
/home/djimenez/.local/share/applications/Firefox.desktop
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I'm really confused. I have write access to ~/.kde
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0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 djimenez users 7 Feb 27 15:58 .kde -> .kde3.2
4.0K drwx------ 4 djimenez users 4.0K Feb 27 15:58 .kde.backup
4.0K drwxr-xr-x 3 djimenez users 4.0K Sep 28 22:52 .kde2
4.0K drwxr-xr-x 4 djimenez users 4.0K Feb 24 23:55 .kde3.2
4.0K -rw------- 1 djimenez users 158 Feb 24 23:55 .kderc
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