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=DvD=
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| Oktane wrote: | Looks like nobody is maintaining this thing anymore  I tried it, even with the workarounds, it's completely b0rked... |
There is unclepine, something like dep, still maintained and working well with new portage, virtuals, circular dependencies, and so on 
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=260866 |
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nth10sd
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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seems like this no longer works... maybe the mods could do something about it?
should i use unclepine then? with what parameters to get the same result as this script? (which is exactly what i need but fails to work) |
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Deranger
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| nth10sd wrote: | seems like this no longer works... maybe the mods could do something about it?
should i use unclepine then? with what parameters to get the same result as this script? (which is exactly what i need but fails to work) |
=DvD=, thanks for pointing out UnclePine, it's awesome! |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Oktane wrote: | | =DvD=, thanks for pointing out UnclePine, it's awesome! |
Tnx xchris who made it
Good stuff need visibility =D |
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antiflag1980
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, doesn't work for me anymore either, I was hoping it would cause I've used it before and it used to work. I have >700 packages installed and I was hoping to speed things up, cause I'm sure I have lots of redundant entries in world. |
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antiflag1980
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| choenig wrote: | This most probably isn't an apropriate fix, bit it helps at least to get it running again.
Change the function 'kill_comments_and_blanks() to the following:
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function kill_comments_and_blanks() {
if [ $# -gt 0 ] ; then
sed -e 's/#.*//;/^$/d' "$@"
fi
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take care, have fun
/christian |
Ok, this fix worked perfect for me. I guess everybody should read the page before this one. |
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radfoj
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I red twice the page before this one and still doesnt work.
When I typed for example
for a long time nothing happen.
But when I tried start this script by sh i get
| Code: | radfoj root # sh dep -s
dep: line 301: `fmt-w': not a valid identifier |
Thats all. |
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yaneurabeya
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| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I got similar errors before. Since the script is a bash script and not an sh script, try bash ./dep...
Shouldn't there be a relevant line in the top of the dep file that says #!/bin/bash as opposed to leaving the executing shell open ended? |
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aethyr
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| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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I noticed dep got updated again.
| Code: | # 0.4.1 "Doritos"
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# * cope with whitespace missing from depstrings
# * fix for findutils-4.2.18 POSIX strictness (thanks
# metal_leper@hotmail.com)
# * fix virtual resolution
# * some memoization - more needed
# * USE-contingent virtuals
# * xterm title progress hints
# * some small speedups
# * fix broken pipe (ditto)
# * fix package.provided stall in kill_comments_and_blanks |
Last time I noticed it was updated to 0.4.0 (back in January), I accidently posted in the wrong thread:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2024739.html#2024739 |
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yaneurabeya
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately dep removed some packages from my world file that I'd rather like to keep...
| Code: | >>> These are the packages that I would unmerge:
app-emulation/wine
selected: 20050111
protected: none
omitted: none
app-text/acroread
selected: 5.10
protected: none
omitted: none
media-fonts/acroread-asianfonts
selected: 20020815
protected: none
omitted: none
media-libs/libungif
selected: 4.1.3
protected: none
omitted: none
media-video/nvidia-glx
selected: 1.0.6629-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
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I am running the 'doritos' release.
Could you possibly ask the Gentoo people to add dep to portage? This does seem to be a very beneficial tool  . |
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soulwarrior
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| yaneurabeya wrote: |
Unfortunately dep removed some packages from my world file that I'd rather like to keep...
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Maybe because they are not in your world file?
I had once the problem that "dep" would want to remove too much packages and I think it was because I treated my world file before with "dep -w". So maybe it would be good to issue a "regenworld" before going "dep -s"?
| yaneurabeya wrote: |
Could you possibly ask the Gentoo people to add dep to portage? This does seem to be a very beneficial tool .
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That would be a great idea, like that the tool would be tested by more people. Maybe even this functionality could be included in portage itself?
Greetings,
Daniel |
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mope
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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goodness, now I'm massively confused.
Dep's still being maintained?
Do we use unclepine or dep? |
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aethyr
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| mope wrote: | goodness, now I'm massively confused.
Dep's still being maintained?
Do we use unclepine or dep? |
Dep is still being maintained (as I mentioned 2 posts up):
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2171851.html#2171851
It still works well, I just used it today. |
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mope
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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well, I saw that you mentioned it a few posts back.
But, and please correct if I'm wrong, you posted that on March 9th and this is April 6th.
I mean, no offense to you, but saying you posted something two posts ago kinda implies your comment is relevant to today. Although, in actuality it was posted a month ago and this thread has just been marinading--so I don't think my question was inappropriate.
My question was aimed at etcatmur since I haven't seen him post an "official" response to this question.
Also, it was semi-rhetorical in the sense that I'm more concerned with determining the differences between this (which I've used for a very long time) and unclepine (which I just grabbed a few days ago) and which one people were using to greateer success. |
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aethyr
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| mope wrote: |
well, I saw that you mentioned it a few posts back.
But, and please correct if I'm wrong, you posted that on March 9th and this is April 6th.
I mean, no offense to you, but saying you posted something two posts ago kinda implies your comment is relevant to today. Although, in actuality it was posted a month ago and this thread has just been marinading--so I don't think my question was inappropriate.
My question was aimed at etcatmur since I haven't seen him post an "official" response to this question.
Also, it was semi-rhetorical in the sense that I'm more concerned with determining the differences between this (which I've used for a very long time) and unclepine (which I just grabbed a few days ago) and which one people were using to greateer success. |
Well, considering the last new version of portage was released March 3rd, http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/sys-apps/portage/?sortby=date#dirlist, and that is the only thing that should affect compatibility, then my post certainly is relevant today. And if you were not sure, you could have tried it to see for yourself (it's not like you can hurt your system, especially if you run it as non-root in pretend mode).
Moreover, if you just wanted to know what was better, you could have just asked. I asked the same exact question myself in January (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-1942141-highlight-dep.html#1942141) only to not get a satisfactory answer, so I tried unclepine (I had already been using dep for awhile). Personally I prefer dep, and it does work with the current version of portage (2.0.51.19 as of this writing).
Oh yea, ecatmur doesn't seem to be posting here anymore, but as I previously indicated, the program was updated on his site at least 2 times since ~November of 2004, which is considered actively maintained (at least by my standards, many open source projects have less releases than that). |
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rhill
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:13 am Post subject: |
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i just noticed the update. i love this script. i don't know why but i just can't grok anything unclepine spits out.
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rhill
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:43 am Post subject: |
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heh, spoke too soon.
anyone else getting this?
| Code: | 244 packages in world: 108 valid, 136 redundant;
68 packages in system;
315 packages installed: 21% in system, 77% in world, 44% deps.
Install new world file? [Yes/No/Diff/Merge] y
tr: misaligned [:upper:] and/or [:lower:] construct
tr: misaligned [:upper:] and/or [:lower:] construct |
the world file is getting written, so i don't know if it's ignorable or not. the only use of tr is
| Code: | function upper() {
echo "$*" | tr [[:lower:]] [[:upper:]]
} |
so i don't know how important it is.
edit: oh okay it's for parsing user input (change small y into capital Y).
edit2: | Code: | function upper() {
echo "$*" | tr "[[:lower:]]" "[[:upper:]]"
} |
i think that'll do it.
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 11:23 am Post subject: |
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I did the following:
| Code: | # wget http://home.jesus.ox.ac.uk/~ecatmur/my-bin/dep
# chmod a+x dep
# mv dep /usr/local/bin/ |
Now when I run dep, I get the following error:
| Code: | # dep
sed: -e uitdrukking #1, teken 122: unterminated `s' command |
How can I fix this?
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| localghost wrote: | I did the following:
| Code: | # wget http://home.jesus.ox.ac.uk/~ecatmur/my-bin/dep
# chmod a+x dep
# mv dep /usr/local/bin/ |
Now when I run dep, I get the following error:
| Code: | # dep
sed: -e uitdrukking #1, teken 122: unterminated `s' command |
How can I fix this? |
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86 function help_fmt() {
87 sed -r "s/( |^)$PROG( |$)/$CY\\0$NO/
88 s/^[^[:space:]].*:/$YL\\0$NO/
89 s/[[:space:]]-[][[:alpha:]?-]+/${FC}\\0${NO}/g
90 s/[[:upper:]_]{3,}/${RD}\\0${NO}/g
91 s/\\(default\\)/${BR}\\0${NO}/
92 s:( |^)/[^[:space:]]+:$GR\\0$NO:
93 s/[[:alpha:]]+([[:digit:]]+)/${BL}\\0${NO}/
94 s/^(An? [[:alpha:]]+ is )([[:alpha:]]+)/\\1${BR}\\2${NO}/"
95 }
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See the [] on line 89? Delete that. Beyond fancy color-formatting of the help message, I don't know what it does. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'm glad you posted that fix embobo, I never would have figured it out. The silly thing is, I've got two systems where the 'stock' dep (from ecatmur's site) works perfect, but a third where I had to remove the brackets. The only difference between the two working and the one non is that the 'non' is arch, whereas the other two are ~arch (one ~x86, the other ~amd64 respectively). Ah well, works now ^^;
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Wow.. this script is GREAT.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:01 am Post subject: |
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I just found a bug with this script.
I installed bash-completion. A post-dependency of it is gentoo-bashcomp.
So app-shells/bash-completion was in my world file.
Then when I run "dep -w" it tells me that this entry is redundant. So after letting it remove the entry for bash-completion there is no entry for either bash-completion OR gentoo-bashcomp. And if I add app-shells/gentoo-bashcomp to my world file dep tells me that's an unneeded entry as well.
I'm guessing this script doesn't deal with post-dependencies well then.
edit:
I see, the problem with it is that gentoo-bashcomp depends on bash-completion but bash-completion has gentoo-bashcomp as a post-dependency. Creates a type of circular dependency. |
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St. Joe
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I've read through this very informative thread, and feel I have a good idea of which entries should be present in the world file. It is quite apparent that I have a good number of packages listed in the world file that are simple deps of other ebuilds. I feel that using the provided script I could prune them effectively.
However, I have a question. If I remove those entries and then need to do a:
emerge -e system
emerge -e world
How and when will the ebuilds that I removed get rebuilt? I good example would be the recent gcc upgrade, and the need to recompile the system and world packages. If a package gets rebuilt it will not once again pull in the applicable deps to also get rebuilt, and so if those deps are not listed in the world file how will they get flagged?
Edit: I suppose one way would be if they were already included in the 'system' category of packages. Then they would not need to be flagged during the 'emerge -e world' session. What would be an effective method to cross-reference this locally? By that I mean look at the 'system' package listing and compare it to those ebuilds in my world file I am considering removing.
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