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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:51 pm    Post subject: Atapi CD burning and gtoaster Reply with quote

So IDE-SCSI has some serious issues in kernel 2.6.3. Can I get gtoaster and all of my other burning software to burn atapi-only without needind scsi emulation???
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's a kernel issue. I have no issues with scsi emultion + burning. But to answer your question, I do believe it's possible for atapi burning. You'll need to either search the forums or wait for a response.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not scsci emulation + burning...

scsi emulation + 2.6.3 = totem not working and odd shutdown messages...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need scsi emultion, period, to have functioning CDROMs... Just remove an ide-scsi from your kernel line in your boot loader...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.6-kernels can burn directly to atapi. it's supported by newer versions of "cdrecord". i don't know if gtoaster burns itself or is just a frontend for cdparanoia, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right...but does anybody know if gtoaster is capable of burning without scsi emulation? I haven't been able to get it to recognize my drives without it. gtoaster is a frontend for cdrtools...and cdrecord sees my drive:

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blaksaga@localhost blaksaga $ cdrecord dev='/dev/hdc' --scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a25 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J�rg Schilling
scsidev: '/dev/hdc'
devname: '/dev/hdc'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus1:
        1,0,0   100) 'TDK     ' 'CDRW401240B     ' 'Z7SD' Removable CD-ROM
        1,1,0   101) *
        1,2,0   102) *
        1,3,0   103) *
        1,4,0   104) *
        1,5,0   105) *
        1,6,0   106) *
        1,7,0   107) *
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://freshmeat.net/projects/cdrecord
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Amoeba- wrote:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/cdrecord


Is there something specific on that page you were trying to point me to??? or just trying to up your post count? :P :P :P
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read it. It answers your question. I have no reason to bloat my post count. It doesn't make me any 'smarter' or more 'reliable'....
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read through the entire thing and there was nothing that answers my question. All that was said was "atapi in linux sucks"...but from what I've heard burning directly to atapi should work fine in kernel 2.6. I have no doubt that atapi burning works in cdrtools...I am just wondering about how to get it to work in gtoaster if it is possible.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdrtools is absolutely capable of burning wihtout scsi emulation, but at least in my installation too, gtoaster (1.0.6 beta) does not cut it. Cannot find any drives. OTOH, xcdroast (which I mostly use anyway) works well.
Thus, I guess it is a gtoaster issue, which will probably be resolved by waiting for a future version.

HTH, Marc.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks mtj...that's what I was looking for. Guess I will have to use xcdroast and command line tools. :D
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you don't hate kde-stuff too much i can recommend "k3b" until gtoaster works.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:

localhost root # emerge k3b -p
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild     U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.1.7-r3 [1.1.7-r1]
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/a52dec-0.7.4
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libmpeg3-1.5.2
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libmovtar-0.1.3-r1
[ebuild  N    ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.7
[ebuild  N    ] media-video/avifile-0.7.38.20030710
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1
[ebuild  N    ] media-video/mjpegtools-1.6.1.90-r1
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/lzo-1.08
[ebuild  N    ] media-video/transcode-0.6.11
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.2.0
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/openmotif-2.1.30-r4
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kdebase-3.2.0
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/libcdio-0.64
[ebuild  N    ] media-video/vcdimager-0.7.19
[ebuild  N    ] media-sound/normalize-0.7.6-r1
[ebuild  N    ] app-cdr/k3b-0.11.1-r1


As much as I would love to install kdebase just for one app I think I will pass! :P
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plasmagunman wrote:
if you don't hate kde-stuff too much i can recommend "k3b" until gtoaster works.


for us non kde people xcdroast works well :)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have xcdroast emerged...just never played with it much. I always liked the way gtoaster was set up for burning music. I'll have to give xcdroaster a whirl.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gtoaster works fine with atapi burning, I've used it with no prob.... you need to either set your burner device to 1,0,0 in your case, or /dev/<burnerdevice>

I forget which, I haven't used it in a while, using bashburn now.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woot got gtoaster to work. What I did was add my cd writer manually (not using scanbus) and setting

device file = /dev/hdc
scsi id = /dev/hdc
mountpoint = /mnt/cdrom

Where /dev/hdc is your cdrom drive. For those of you that have "atapi: x,x,x" instead of /dev/hdc it should work also.

It tosses out a crapload of warnings but it works...great.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=955749#955749

that should work too, if you want it to auto-detect
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello!


I installed cdrtools and xcdroast, configured xcdroast via the gui that pops up (setup).

anyway, when I saved the configuration, I get this warning that says that using an ATAPI device as my CD-writer is not a recommended setup, that I will experience long delays within xcdroast, and have crappy writing performance. (compared to scsi emulation)

Now, was I missinformed when I heard that using ATAPI instead of scsi-emulation would increase performance?

or is this just something that appends to xcdroast?

Thanks
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