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motub Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 87 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I already use the Nautilus backgrounds (although those only work if you show the windows in "icon view").
I'm talking about what I only can refer to as the "MDI window" colors.
The color of the menu. The color of all things that change when you choose a different theme in the "window controls" section of the theme details window in the GNOME theme applet.
All of the current GTK Lila themes are white or off-white, with a purple highlight when you move your mouse over a menu item or button. This means the panels are white. The menus are white.
Most GTK themes are like this, with the exception of a few, such as 6nome-sandy, Gorilla (which are pale brown/sand colored) and nuvola (which is some kind of pale cornflower blue). Most all the others use white or pale gray. That's why I was using ThinGeramik (ported), but that was only green/purple because I had customized the colors in KDE before that, and apparently it was reading those settings (which also seems to have broken GTK/gnome themeing, but that's another story). From the screenshots of the homepage for the port, Geramik/ThinGeramik are natively light blue.
I would like violet or pale green for a change, and preferably a bit dark or unsaturated if possible, because all these light menus and panels make my eyes hurt after a while. |
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Snooper Apprentice
Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 182 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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i've already uploaded menu highlights in green, blue, and red, and my purple is slitely darker |
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motub Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 87 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you (that should certainly help if I give the red icons a shot).
But what color is the menu itself? (I'm reinstalling gtk atm, and possibly GNOME as well, as something is definitely broken, so I can't check). |
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Snooper Apprentice
Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 182 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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the menu is still that off white f8f8f8 |
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scaba Apprentice
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 252 Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Snooper wrote: | I've uploaded a new metacity theme it's a bite off the ximian metacity theme but the close, restore, maximize, minimize, and menu have been lila fied:-) i'm also working on some new gtk themes as i found you can do beveled, gradient, shadow_in/out menu's and i'm sure so much more:-) |
new metacity theme looks quite good, but the buttons need a revision. behind all the button is a circle which has a slightly brighter color.
also the 'minimize' is maybe a bit too dark and the 'maximize/unmaximize' maybe a bit too bright.
btw, the gnome-style 'g' on the applications-menu has that circle of brighter color as well, which looks a bit odd.
i don't know, but i personally would prefer the window titlebar to have a bit a brighter color while active, and a bit a darker color while inactive.
the inactive color is some yellowish now, should have a touch of the lila colors.
while we are at it, we need gnome meta-themes for lila-green/-red/-blue/... as well.
and we should add the lila-yellow icons by smithlx as well to the archive. and corresponding gdm-theme, wallpaper and bootsplash.
Snooper wrote: | like what colors? you know you don't have to use the base white for nautilus there are patterns available green, and purple scanlines thats what i use they are part of the wallapaper package under nautilus just drop them in /usr/share/nautilus/patterns |
we should be dropping the nautilus patterns automatically to '/usr/share/nautilus/patterns'. maybe remove them from 'lila-backgrounds' and add them to 'lila-gnome' or so.
what to do with the 'base' directory also contained in 'lila-backgrounds'? what's that good for? _________________ Out of silence, a story. Out of chaos, order. Out of nothingness, love...
-- Tad Williams, Otherland
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Snooper Apprentice
Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 182 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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i had actually done the circles on purpuse to act as a button circle i'll make some revisions and take some screen shots with drawing a circle and square and put the icons in the drawn area without the alpha circle behind it. i was kinda looking at that and wondering about it too. i'll also just do it without any border and just the image by itself see what people like. i didn't add the metacity theme to the colors so they would all point to the lila metacity theme and the gtkrc would paint the blue,red,purple etc title, text, bg colors. |
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scaba Apprentice
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 252 Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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#new snapshot
lila-gnome
extract to your PORTDIR_OVERLAY and run lila-script.
Code: | # ./lila-script digest && ./lila-script emerge |
#new ebuilds
lila-splash-0.1 -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-splash
//new ebuild. lila splash for gnome.
lila-xmms-0.1 -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-xmms
//new ebuild. lila theme for xmms.
lila-backgrounds-0.3.2 -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-backgrounds
//nautilus patterns got thrown out as they don't belong here. contains only desktop backgrounds.
lila-grub-0.3 -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-grub
//new simple grub splashimages in blue/green/purple/red to hopefully fit the bootsplash themes.
lila-gtk+-0.4.1 -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-gtk+
//updated to the new metacity theme by dgt84. contains gnome meta-themes for blue/green/purple/red. _________________ Out of silence, a story. Out of chaos, order. Out of nothingness, love...
-- Tad Williams, Otherland
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Snooper Apprentice
Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 182 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 4:14 am Post subject: |
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scaba i uploaded icons-alt.tar.bz2 these are an alternative just drop them over the old ones in lila2/metacity-1 and tell me what you think i have black ones also but i have to change the code to use them so this is just a test.
added alt direcs to the file just move those into the metacity direc to test those also. |
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salmo Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 87 Location: Memphis, TN, USA
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Just finished installing the new snapshot and switched to the Lila-Blue metatheme, just for a change of pace. Works beautifully for me. Went to the wiki to add the info and I see someone beat me to it . Excellent work scaba. |
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scaba Apprentice
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 252 Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 8:01 am Post subject: |
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salmo wrote: | Just finished installing the new snapshot and switched to the Lila-Blue metatheme, just for a change of pace. Works beautifully for me. Went to the wiki to add the info and I see someone beat me to it . Excellent work scaba. |
add the info about the snapshots? that was me
but even with the snapshots, it would still be a pain to install/update without your script. just added it to the wiki as well. _________________ Out of silence, a story. Out of chaos, order. Out of nothingness, love...
-- Tad Williams, Otherland |
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scaba Apprentice
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 252 Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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#new snapshots
lila-gnome
lila-xfce
lila-openbox
extract to your PORTDIR_OVERLAY and run lila-script.
Code: | # ./lila-script digest && ./lila-script emerge |
note: there might me ebuilds in the snapshots for packages you don't actually have. you can either delete those directories before running the script (recommended) or just skip the digest/emerge of those ebuilds with 'ctrl-c'.
# new ebuilds
lila-xfwm4 -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-xfwm4
//new ebuild. lila themes for xfwm4.
lila-xffm -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-xffm
//new ebuild. lila theme for xffm.
lila-xfce4-panel -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-xfce4-panel
//new ebuild. lila theme for xfce4-panel.
lila-openbox -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-openbox
//new ebuild. lila themes for openbox.
lila-gnome-0.5-r1 -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-gnome
//updated ebuild. removed dep on 'gnome-themes' as 'lila-openbox' & 'lila-xfwm4' depend on 'lila-gnome' and don't need those. make sure you install the 'gnome-themes' manually if you're using gnome. it's not a very clean solution but will do 'til something better has been found.
there might well be some deps set wrongly in the openbox and xfce4 ebuilds. please tell me if you encounter them. 'lila-gnome' is alright as it contains the icons. _________________ Out of silence, a story. Out of chaos, order. Out of nothingness, love...
-- Tad Williams, Otherland |
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scaba Apprentice
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 252 Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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#new snapshots
lila-gnome
lila-kde
lila-openbox
lila-xfce
extract to your PORTDIR_OVERLAY and run lila-script.
Code: | # ./lila-script digest && ./lila-script emerge |
note: there might me ebuilds in the snapshots for packages you don't actually have. you can either delete those directories before running the script (recommended) or just skip the digest/emerge of those ebuilds with 'ctrl-c'.
# new ebuilds
lila-kde -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-kde
//new ebuild. lila icons for kde.
lila-smilies -- PORTDIR_OVERLAY/x11-themes/lila-smilies
//updated ebuild. lila smilies for gaim. gets copied to the proper place now. fixed a typo in the 'theme' file as well.
btw, how do i get rid of smiley themes once their installed in gaim? _________________ Out of silence, a story. Out of chaos, order. Out of nothingness, love...
-- Tad Williams, Otherland |
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ecatmur Advocate
Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Posts: 3595 Location: Edinburgh
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Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Posts: 3595 Location: Edinburgh
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Snooper Apprentice
Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 182 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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We need a CVS lol and a repository where all the icons are so that people can just upload edit the changelog and auto package nightly or something |
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salmo Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 87 Location: Memphis, TN, USA
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Go to the wiki and put a link next to each listing you're submitting for in the request section. If it's not there feel free to add it.
As for the fonts, do we have redistribution rights? I know they're freeware, but a lot of font authors require permission to redistribute. (beer not speech, blah blah blah).
Oh and on the lila-script: if you're real worried about unintentially emerging themes and their dependencies you can change line 20 from
Code: | emerge --verbose x11-themes/$i |
to
Code: | emerge --ask --verbose x11-themes/$i |
to make it... well you get the point. Still downloads and calculates digests unless you Ctrl-C it of course.
Now off to play with the latest snapshot! |
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ecatmur Advocate
Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Posts: 3595 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 5:35 am Post subject: |
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The Ray Larabie font (the one that the server won't let wget download) has a fairly liberal license: Quote: | - Reproduction and Distribution. You may reproduce and distribute an unlimited number of
copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT; provided that each copy shall be a true and complete copy,
including all copyright and trademark notices (if applicable) , and shall be accompanied by
a copy of this text file. Copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT may not be distributed for profit
either on a standalone basis or included as part of your own product unless by prior
permission of Larabie Fonts. |
Looks like it would be OK. _________________ No more cruft
dep: Revdeps that work
Using command-line ACCEPT_KEYWORDS? |
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ecatmur Advocate
Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Posts: 3595 Location: Edinburgh
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phranzee Guru
Joined: 22 Nov 2003 Posts: 397 Location: katowice/pl
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 6:27 am Post subject: |
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hi. is it possible in firefox to make the toolbar icons smaller than the "use small icons" version ?
lila theme for ff is great, but it takes too much space. i use "Bitstream Vera Sans 8" for menus and the icons make the toolbar unnecessarily big. _________________ signature fault
post dumped ;] |
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salmo Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 87 Location: Memphis, TN, USA
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Ok, it's really late, but I updated lila-script a bit. Now it takes a -v option that prompts before downloading/building the digests or runs emerge with --ask depending on the context. oh and it spits out a usage statement when run wrong.
It's a bit heftier so I'll just point you to
http://clearcreeksupport.com/lila/lila-script
It's still a hack, still kills babies (but asks you first now!), use at your own risk, etc.
@ecatmur: The only issue then would be if you wanted to get your ebuild into portage, since they sell Gentoo on CD (I'm guessing with some sort of portage snapshot). Then again I may be off base again . Also permission may be able to be aranged and I don't know if it's considered "for profit" if it's being sold by a non-profit, etc. etc. sidenote: I really hate roll-your-own licenses.
And enough of the legal crap, I really dig your icons. Thanks! |
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scaba Apprentice
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 252 Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 9:51 am Post subject: |
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salmo wrote: | Ok, it's really late, but I updated lila-script a bit. Now it takes a -v option that prompts before downloading/building the digests or runs emerge with --ask depending on the context. oh and it spits out a usage statement when run wrong.
It's a bit heftier so I'll just point you to
http://clearcreeksupport.com/lila/lila-script
It's still a hack, still kills babies (but asks you first now!), use at your own risk, etc. |
i improved your script on a touch, i.e. improved readability by using a new line for each item.
it can be found here and is also linked to in my previous posts. _________________ Out of silence, a story. Out of chaos, order. Out of nothingness, love...
-- Tad Williams, Otherland |
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dgt84 Guru
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 355 Location: Germany => USA
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Damn, lost my thread subscription again...
Nice job everyone is doing!
@etcatmur: I like the icons, keep it up
If this keeps up I'll make some new releases soon _________________ Lila themes | The Porthole Portage Frontend | SVG-Utils |
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scaba Apprentice
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 252 Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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dgt84, in your metacity theme (at least i believe it's the metacity theme) text boxes have no border around them, which makes it hard to see sometimes.
have a look at these screenshots, Lila-purple (without borders) and Gorilla (with borders) to know what i mean.
would it be possible to change that? other than that it's a great theme!
oh, and something else. why is it that the icons (in the applications menu) of firefox, thunderbird, xmms and others are still the normal/original ones despite the fact that there are lila icons available? _________________ Out of silence, a story. Out of chaos, order. Out of nothingness, love...
-- Tad Williams, Otherland |
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dgt84 Guru
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 355 Location: Germany => USA
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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scaba wrote: | dgt84, in your metacity theme (at least i believe it's the metacity theme) text boxes have no border around them, which makes it hard to see sometimes.
have a look at these screenshots, Lila-purple (without borders) and Gorilla (with borders) to know what i mean.
would it be possible to change that? other than that it's a great theme! |
That's the GTK theme, not the metacity theme. I'm not quite sure why it's doing that, but you seem to be using the thinice engine (lila-simple), right?
scaba wrote: | oh, and something else. why is it that the icons (in the applications menu) of firefox, thunderbird, xmms and others are still the normal/original ones despite the fact that there are lila icons available? |
I don't know what the proper icon names are. If you could tell me them I can rename them for the next release _________________ Lila themes | The Porthole Portage Frontend | SVG-Utils |
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Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Posts: 3595 Location: Edinburgh
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