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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2002 3:37 pm    Post subject: Traceroute/Ping issues Reply with quote

I have issues with performing a successful traceroute anywhere. Yet, I am still able to use the web and play games.

example:
traceroute slashdot.org
traceroute to slashdot.org (64.28.67.150), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 * * *
2 * * *
3 * * *
4 * * *
5 * * *
6 * * *
7 * * *
etc..

also, on occasion I try to ping a website yet, i get no response.
Is this due to DoS prevention tatics?

ping slashdot.org
PING slashdot.org (64.28.67.150): 56 octets data

--- slashdot.org ping statistics ---
46 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

What must I set up to have these utilities work correctly?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2002 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems likely that there is a firewall somewhere upstream of you that drops these packets.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 1:06 am    Post subject: /. Reply with quote

try pinging another site, slashdot always dropped pings for some reason :)
traceroutes not getting thru is definitely a firewall issue and since not a single host replies I guess it must be your local gateway
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that dropping ICMP, ping, traceroute is in the current fashion, because of security issues....
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since you got not reply from anywhere, either you have a firewall on your machine filtering it out or you ISP is dropping them (or whoever your next hop is)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem with this gentoo box. I am behind a Linksys router.

I am able to run traceroute to any of the machines on my lan. As soon as I go to the net (thru the router) I get no response.

What is weird, my other 3 win boxes run tracert just fine. I am not running ipchains...FWIW.

//Jeff
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 2:18 am    Post subject: tracert vs traceroute Reply with quote

“Tracert” on the Windows platform uses ICMP packets while “traceroute” for UNIX uses UDP packets. Therefore, yes, you will see different behavior between the two platfoms.

http://yunus.hacettepe.edu.tr/~bbm808/ping_tracert/birdseye.htm

Something that might help you troubleshoot is:

emerge tcptraceroute

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion on tcptraceroute. Unfortunately it yields the same results as "traceroute" - get results on lan but not anything from the 'net.

I am guessing I need to change something in my router settings, just not sure what?!? :roll:
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem. My Windows box can tracert just fine, but the linux one gives me all * * *'s. The solution is to use "traceroute -I hostname". This tells traceroute to use ICMP packets and not UDP packets. I guess it has something to do with the Linksys router. (I am behind one too)
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