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senseiwa
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 Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: Kernel 2.6 and obsolete devfs |
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Is there a way of avoiding using devfs on 2.6 kernel series?
I will explain myself. DevFS has been marked from experimental to obsolete, and udev/sysfs has been chosen for device handling. Currently no document in gentoo documents tell what to do about the devfs dropping, saying that devfs is still the distro's choice.
Now, a document update would be great, something like ``discarding devfs''... or maybe a gentoo 1.5 will be released soon? 
I'm wondering if this is just a matter of fear (2.6 branch is marked as developer, while the kernel is stable and rocking) or it has something behind... |
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pathose
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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There is a guide to installing devfs in gentoo with a 2.6 kernel. It's listed on the docs page, http:/www.gentoo.org/doc, right under the devfs doc.
Gentoo versioning has moved from the 1.x system to a quarterly release schedule (or it was quarterly, I don't know if it still is or not). THe current release is Gentoo 2004.0 which is still a linux-kernel 2.4 based liveCD. Nothing do stop you from installing a 2.6 kernel, it's just what's on the liveCD. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| The 2.6 kernel series has support for devfs, although it says it's obsolete. Just compile it into the kernel and you'll be fine. I'm running kernel 2.6.4 which I got from kernel.org and it had devfs support still. |
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Voltago
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| There is already a udev guide in gentoo docs. Have it running on my laptop. Works fine (if you don't plan to use nvidia drm drivers, that is). |
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senseiwa
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| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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That's what I'm looking for
Anyway, I plan to use nvidia driver for my nvidia, but I never used drm. I heard of that but I don't know when it should be used... Still, I heard it's pretty necessary with my laptop (using an ati mobile 7500)...
Is it true?
I'd like to avoid using devfs... |
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t_2199
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| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| senseiwa wrote: |
I'd like to avoid using devfs... |
Why ? Works fine here! |
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pjp
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Moved from Installing Gentoo.
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spb
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| t_2199 wrote: | | senseiwa wrote: |
I'd like to avoid using devfs... |
Why ? Works fine here! |
Well, (1) the devfs maintainer disappeared a while ago, IIRC. (2) udev is the Right Way To Do It (TM), and some people think that makes it worth the effort to try and set it up. (3) When D-BUS, HAL, and gnome-volume-manager are slightly more mature, we'll have automatic mounting of removable drives without needing any kernel code, and without polling (unlike supermount, for example, which is both kernel-based and works by monitoring access to the filesystem). |
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OdinsDream
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Is this automatic loading you speak of similar to the way OSX handles removable media?
Does anyone know how that works, anyway? Is it just supermount?
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