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markuslk n00b
Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 21 Location: Altena, NRW, Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 11:29 am Post subject: kernel 2.6.5 on AMD64 [your experiences?] |
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Hi
I've just installed kernel 2.6.5 on my gentoo-64 system and it's working nice and stable
But I had compile errors when I enabled the ACPI Support; genkernel wasn't able to build the bzImage. Well, ACPI doesn't seem to work here, so I'm not missing it at all
The second problem was that I build the Ethernet over Firewire Support as a module, and this module wants to be the first network card in the system... ... really strange! Ok, don't need it, kick it!
What are your experiences with the fresh kernel?
Greets
Markus _________________ D'oh!
System: AMD64 3200+ | Asus K8V-D | 512MB Infineon | 1x80GB Maxtor on VIA SATA | GeForce FX 5200 128MB | gentoo-2.6.5-r1 |
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Vendicatore Apprentice
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 252 Location: Carate Brianza, Italy
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'm also running with 2.6.5 and it seem fast and stable.
The only issue I have is that my soundcard don't want to work with it (it run perfectly on 2.6.4, wit alsa via drivers). |
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robnotts Guru
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 405 Location: Nottingham, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Had exactly the same problem with the ieee1394 firewire ethernet taking over eth0/, but a quick compile later with that option removed and all back nicely!
aMule doesn't seem to like it though... it used to crash on 2.6.3, but now it completely hangs 2.6.5...
Will investigate later.
Rob. _________________ ---
Gentoo Phenom][ X4 955 on AMD790 + Geforce 220GT 8GB/1.75TB (Desktop)
+ MythTV (3xFreeview,1xFreesat HD) on 1080p
Gentoo Turion64 X2 Geforce 6150 2GB/120GB (Laptop) |
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robnotts Guru
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 405 Location: Nottingham, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Right, gave up... machine kept freezing when running kde... was fine once I did an "init 1" and went back to console mode... where I tried emerging lots and lots and lots of things... xfree, glibc, kde... but when I restarted, back to freezing...
Back running a nice more stable 2.6.3-gentoo-r2 for the moment... unless anyone can tell me what I would need to re-emerge once I upgrade the kernel...
Rob. _________________ ---
Gentoo Phenom][ X4 955 on AMD790 + Geforce 220GT 8GB/1.75TB (Desktop)
+ MythTV (3xFreeview,1xFreesat HD) on 1080p
Gentoo Turion64 X2 Geforce 6150 2GB/120GB (Laptop) |
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thumper Guru
Joined: 06 Dec 2002 Posts: 552 Location: Venice FL
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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dropped in my .config from my 2.6.3-gentoo-r2, ran make oldconfig, answered a few questions, built it, installed it and it works fine so far.
time will tell....
George |
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ulysses_cruz n00b
Joined: 08 Apr 2004 Posts: 66 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I've been forced to go back to 2.6.3-r2
When I tried using 2.6.5 everything was fine until my ram would fill up and xscreensaver would activate. Then my system would just reboot. No error messages, no segfaults... nothing, just a reboot!
Thank goodness I didn't delete my old kernel or modules. _________________ If it were'nt for the voices in my head, I'd go insane from loneliness.
-Me, Myself and I
Iwill DK8X, 2x Opteron 244, 8x 512Mb PC2700, Geforce FX5600, Audigy 2 ZS Plat., MegaRAID SATA150-6 |
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Corona688 Veteran
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 1204
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Gendal n00b
Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 18
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:58 am Post subject: |
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I wanted to try it out because I still can't copy any large file at gigabit speeds on my MSI Neo board with it's realtek ethernet. Anytime I try and use samba or ftp to transfer a large file it locks the machine hard, and it's done that for 2.6.1 to 2.6.4. No change in 2.6.5.
The only change was now when I try and play files (xvid/svcd/divx/etc) with xine or mplayer over the network it eventually chokes, pauses for a couple seconds, then continues on seconds ahead of where it stopped. Reverted back to 2.6.3-r2 which doesn't have that problem.
Everything else seemed to work, nothing crashed it minus the typical gigabit problems.
Anybody have a solution for the video files choking? The kernel was the only (heh, only) thing I changed... |
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robnotts Guru
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 405 Location: Nottingham, UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Having spent a little bit more time looking into this I think I will bootstrap my machine again when gcc 3.3.4 comes out... that way I will have the benefit of the better kernel, and the benefit of the faster/better gcc...
Rob. _________________ ---
Gentoo Phenom][ X4 955 on AMD790 + Geforce 220GT 8GB/1.75TB (Desktop)
+ MythTV (3xFreeview,1xFreesat HD) on 1080p
Gentoo Turion64 X2 Geforce 6150 2GB/120GB (Laptop) |
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mean Guru
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 313
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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As for me, going straight to 2.6.5 no problem at all |
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tamran n00b
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 35 Location: Ft. Myers, FL
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robnotts Guru
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 405 Location: Nottingham, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Well I dunno what changes they made between gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.5 and gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.5-r1, but whatever they did, thanks!
It works like a charm so far... which is more than I can say about 2.6.5, which crashed/froze after a few minutes, or sometimes even a few seconds!
Will give it a good run in to see how it goes, but still have 2.6.3-r2 ready as a backup !
Rob. _________________ ---
Gentoo Phenom][ X4 955 on AMD790 + Geforce 220GT 8GB/1.75TB (Desktop)
+ MythTV (3xFreeview,1xFreesat HD) on 1080p
Gentoo Turion64 X2 Geforce 6150 2GB/120GB (Laptop) |
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robnotts Guru
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 405 Location: Nottingham, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Take that back... just hung on me... and no error message!
Back to 2.6.3-r2 we go!
The only thing I can find different in the bootup between 2.6.3-r2 and 2.6.5-r1 relates to powernow...
For 2.6.3-r2
Code: | Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 powernow-k8: Found AMD64 processor supporting PowerNow (version 1.
00.08a)
Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 powernow-k8: voltage stable in 100 usec, ramp voltage offset: 2, i
sochronous relief time: 3, maximum voltage step: 0
Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 powernow-k8: pll lock time: 0x2
Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 powernow-k8: BIOS error: max voltage vid listed as 0x00, should be
at least 0x0a, as listed as max in pst.
Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 maxfid 0xc (2000 MHz), maxvid 0xa
Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 powernow-k8: 0 : fid 0x0 (800 MHz), vid 0xa
Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 powernow-k8: 1 : fid 0xa (1800 MHz), vid 0x6
Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 powernow-k8: 2 : fid 0xc (2000 MHz), vid 0x2
Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 powernow-k8: currfid 0xc (2000 MHz), currvid 0x2
Apr 17 20:19:40 linux64 powernow-k8: cpu_init done, current fid 0xc, vid 0x2 |
For 2.6.5-r1
Code: | Apr 17 19:56:46 linux64 powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1
.20.08b - March 20, 2004)
Apr 17 19:56:46 linux64 powernow-k8: 0 : fid c (2000 MHz), vid 2 (1500 mV)
Apr 17 19:56:46 linux64 powernow-k8: 1 : fid a (1800 MHz), vid 6 (1400 mV)
Apr 17 19:56:46 linux64 powernow-k8: 2 : fid 0 (800 MHz), vid a (1300 mV)
Apr 17 19:56:46 linux64 powernow-k8: 3 : fid 3f (4294967 MHz), vid 1f (775 mV)
Apr 17 19:56:46 linux64 powernow-k8: 4 : fid 3f (4294967 MHz), vid 1f (775 mV) |
Could this be what is killing my machine?
BioStar k8hna pro, with the latest bios, amd athlon 64 3200+
Rob. _________________ ---
Gentoo Phenom][ X4 955 on AMD790 + Geforce 220GT 8GB/1.75TB (Desktop)
+ MythTV (3xFreeview,1xFreesat HD) on 1080p
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ebrostig Bodhisattva
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 3152 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I just got my AMD64 3200+ this week.
I have tried both mm-sources and gentoo-dev-sources without any problems other than that the mm-sources was not as responsive as gentoo-dev-sources is.
Both are 2.6.5...
I guess it is a bit early yet to say any definite, but so far, no problems.
Erik _________________ 'Yes, Firefox is indeed greater than women. Can women block pops up for you? No. Can Firefox show you naked women? Yes.' |
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lightvhawk0 Guru
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 388
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 12:19 am Post subject: |
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2.6.5 with a combination of recompiling my system with out the mfpmath flag got rid of my system rebooting when I tried to acces glx.
So no problems so far. _________________ If God has made us in his image, we have returned him the favor. - Voltaire |
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Kow Apprentice
Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 227
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:35 am Post subject: |
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I've had my dual opteron CPU hardlock, usually when doing CPU heavy stuff and either clicking on a link or changing a song in XMMS...
I do not remember this error with the 2.6.4 kernel for the time I used it (only ~week)...
May I perhaps suggest IRQ issues? I guess it's a place to start, just got done talking with someone in the gentoo-amd64 IRC channel and he had these kind of issues with 2.6.3, but is stable with 2.6.5. I'm wondering if it may not depend on the kernel at all?
Definitely some funky stuff going on here. _________________ -Kow |
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ulysses_cruz n00b
Joined: 08 Apr 2004 Posts: 66 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I've been using the 2.6.5-r1 kernel for 24 hours, and so far I've had no problems. The reboot problem that I experianced with 2.6.5 is nowhere to be found and everything else seems a little more responsive than with 2.6.3-r2
I'm still going to keep my old kernel and modules around for a while, but so far, it looks like 2.6.5-r1 is a winner on my dual Opteron system. _________________ If it were'nt for the voices in my head, I'd go insane from loneliness.
-Me, Myself and I
Iwill DK8X, 2x Opteron 244, 8x 512Mb PC2700, Geforce FX5600, Audigy 2 ZS Plat., MegaRAID SATA150-6 |
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Corona688 Veteran
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 1204
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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What I want to know is why, with all these problems, 2.6.5 is marked stable and 2.6.4 is not. _________________ Petition for Better 64-bit ATI Drivers - Sign Here
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Lv Retired Dev
Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 352
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Corona688 wrote: | What I want to know is why, with all these problems, 2.6.5 is marked stable and 2.6.4 is not. |
2.6.5 is the first truly stable kernel for a number of people. it also includes much better SATA support. a number of bugs have been fixed, and it even compiles with pre-empt enabled (which is still unsupported and very experimental, btw).
there have also been some screwy acpi updates between 2.6.3 and 2.6.5 that might break things for people... particularly for those stuck with a retarded freaking motherboard that puts damn near everything on one IRQ like the MSI boards seem to do (and possibly other via based boards)
also, it seems that the workaround for errata #93 isn't working quite as well... so if your BIOS is already horribly broken then this kernel isn't as good at working around those issues. errata #93 is a bug where the BIOS idle loop seems to clobber registers that it shouldn't, and a lot of boards have this problem. boot with idle=poll to not use the BIOS idle loop.... if this fixes your problems, then complain to the company you got your board from to fix their bios.
pretty much, it seems that 2.6.5 is a lot more stable if your hardware isn't already broken in some way. |
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abunai n00b
Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Have a Shuttle SN85G (nforce3 150), Leadtek gForce 5700 ultra, 1 gb DDR400, 120GB ata133 HD, and an AMD64 3200. Been running the 2.6.5 kernel for about a week. I did a stage3 install and everything work fine from the get go. Like many other posting, my firewire came up as eth0 which caused me some greif till I figured out what was going on. My system running gnome has been solid running many diffrent apps (ut2004demo, xine, mplayer, samba, xmms, firefox, etc). There are a few detail I am still sorting out, but I think are due my errors. Over all I am really enjoying my gentoo amd64 experience. |
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robmoss Retired Dev
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 2634 Location: Jesus College, Oxford
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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If you're getting hard locks, reboots or similar, remove any traces of "-mfpmath=" from your CFLAGS and do an emerge -e world. Not only does it break certain things on AMD64, but each of -mfpmath=387, -mfpmath=sse and -mfpmath=387,sse give slower performance on almost all - AMD64 included - architectures. _________________ Reality is for those who can't face Science Fiction.
emerge -U will kill your Gentoo
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dkaplowitz Guru
Joined: 22 Nov 2003 Posts: 596 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Been running 2.6.5 fine and just upgraded to 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 with no probz either. _________________ http://dkap.info |
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